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 Post subject: A little history
PostPosted: Mon Feb 23, 2009 9:46 pm 
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I found this whilst surfing on the history of Scottish inventors,which led to the wiki page on who invented the bicycle(or not as the case may be)
Up till now i thought it was invented in England.
I knew the Scots were responsible for the pneumatic but not this

Anyone researched this subject? and can shed some light......


The 1830s: the reported Scottish inventions

The first mechanically-propelled 2-wheel vehicle was believed to have been built by Kirkpatrick MacMillan, a Scottish blacksmith, in 1839. A nephew later claimed that his uncle developed a rear-wheel drive design using mid mounted treadles connected by rods to a rear crank, similar to the transmission of a steam locomotive. Proponents associate him with the first recorded instance of a bicycling traffic offence, when a Glasgow newspaper reported in 1842 an accident in which an anonymous "gentleman from Dumfries-shire... bestride a velocipede... of ingenious design" knocked over a pedestrian in the Gorbals and was fined five British shillings. However, the evidence connecting this with MacMillan isn't even circumstantial, since the artisan MacMillan wouldn't have been termed a gentleman. A similar machine was said to have been produced by Gavin Dalzell of Lesmahagow . The first documented producer of rod-driven 2-wheelers was Thomas McCall, of Kilmarnock in 1869. The design could not compete with the front-crank velocipede of the Lallement/Michaux type, however, despite McCall's all steel version of 1869.
[from Wikipedia]


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PostPosted: Mon Feb 23, 2009 10:05 pm 
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why dont we use the word velocipede anymore :(

and knocking over people is proper retro :lol:


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remmeber also that Wikipedia is opinion and not fact, just because its written on something with an "-edia" at the end doesn't mean its right.

Maybe we need to ask Stephen Fry or at least one of the researchers for QI
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 Post subject: Seems right
PostPosted: Mon Feb 23, 2009 11:28 pm 
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This seems to be about right as there is a festival this year in Dumfries with a week of cycling to celebrate among other things, Mcmillan himself. Check out Historic Scotland under festivals.

Jamie
(gentleman with Stumpjumper velocipedes)

well....the stumpjumper bits right :wink:


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Jury is still out on who invented the bicycle first as several people around Europe have been attributed to it.

Also although Dunlop was a Scot, he spent most of his life in Northern Ireland. A true Scot would have been too canny to sell up the rights for such a great invention for the paltry sum he did :lol:

We Scots have been responsible for many great inventions but as usual some one from some other nation has picked up the idea and made it into something good. :wink:

I still use the term Velocipede as is indicated by my username but as its a French word you can see why the English speaking world did not like it ( good old Xenophobia) :roll:

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Velocipede just sounds like an insect with a hundred wheels........ :lol: :oops:


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I've just done a Victorian project with my son, Kirkpatrick is credited in a few books (not just wiki) as being the first to make a mechanically powered bike, although walkie bikes had been around much longer.

It used levers to turn the wheel, but like a true cyclist he was full of karma and didn't patent his invention.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/history/historic_f ... rick.shtml


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