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PostPosted: Sat May 05, 2018 12:24 pm 
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well, I guess as long as you are all talking about it, it can only be a good thing and that you're aware of it.



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PostPosted: Sun May 06, 2018 8:07 am 
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Alison wrote:
I can better that :) only joking, but I've been sectioned twice and voluntary once, but you got intense work, I just got left to rot in my room, I try to be a rounded, socially acceptable individual, but basically I don't leave the house and I never socialise with anyone, not even my neighbours, Retrobike is the only time I talk to people mainly because I can fool you lot into thinking I'm a kind and generous soul when really I'm a right nasty piece of work :) I think it's horrid when there is nothing you can do it just hits you and no one seams to comprehend why you can't just stop feeling bad (which is basically what my oldest once said to me) But I look at my children and know I've done something right :)


This is awful! I hope that you, and everyone else here suffering with depression, have heard about the flurry of work in the last few years linking depression to inflammation and the body's immune system. Essentially, the work indicates that you can't snap out of it, etc. because the depression is a side-effect of something else: inflammation in the brain caused by your body's immune system (which might be chronically malfunctioning, e.g. if you have an underlying thyroid problem). This article gets to the point and sums things up clearly: https://www.telegraph.co.uk/science/201 ... lammatory/


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PostPosted: Sun May 06, 2018 9:29 am 
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CassidyAce wrote:
Alison wrote:
I can better that :) only joking, but I've been sectioned twice and voluntary once, but you got intense work, I just got left to rot in my room, I try to be a rounded, socially acceptable individual, but basically I don't leave the house and I never socialise with anyone, not even my neighbours, Retrobike is the only time I talk to people mainly because I can fool you lot into thinking I'm a kind and generous soul when really I'm a right nasty piece of work :) I think it's horrid when there is nothing you can do it just hits you and no one seams to comprehend why you can't just stop feeling bad (which is basically what my oldest once said to me) But I look at my children and know I've done something right :)


This is awful! I hope that you, and everyone else here suffering with depression, have heard about the flurry of work in the last few years linking depression to inflammation and the body's immune system. Essentially, the work indicates that you can't snap out of it, etc. because the depression is a side-effect of something else: inflammation in the brain caused by your body's immune system (which might be chronically malfunctioning, e.g. if you have an underlying thyroid problem). This article gets to the point and sums things up clearly: https://www.telegraph.co.uk/science/201 ... lammatory/


I will take that on board and may also have a stiff word with my thyroid

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Exercise — Depression can result from chronic ongoing stress and exercise acts like a biological insurance plan against the bodily effects of stress. 20 minutes, three times a week or more of anything that gets you sweaty is all that’s needed.


This is helping

A lot.


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PostPosted: Sun May 06, 2018 11:07 am 
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I try not to use the 'D' word. The way I see it, anyone who has given half a thought to their existential situation is going to be miserable. There is only one reason to medicalise it- because miserable people cannot perform their socio-economic roles. So they get a new socio-economic role: "Patient in need of therapy", perfectly complimentary to the socio-economic role: "Dispenser of therapy"

The therapies change over time, each as barbaric as the last. Remember ect? that was the enlightened new approach once.


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PostPosted: Sun May 06, 2018 11:13 am 
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torqueless wrote:
I try not to use the 'D' word. The way I see it, anyone who has given half a thought to their existential situation is going to be miserable. There is only one reason to medicalise it- because miserable people cannot perform their socio-economic roles. So they get a new socio-economic role: "Patient in need of therapy", perfectly complimentary to the socio-economic role: "Dispenser of therapy"

The therapies change over time, each as barbaric as the last. Remember ect? that was the enlightened new approach once.




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PostPosted: Sun May 06, 2018 3:53 pm 
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Therapy. Since we're being open and all that, I can't emphasise just how beneficial a good therapist can be.

And as echoed above exercise and doing the things you love really help whilst you get into the real nitty gritty.


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PostPosted: Tue May 08, 2018 10:50 pm 
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The little black dog has been sneaking up to me rather too well recently, I am aware that I really ought to further my conversations with someone able to help me through resolving my experiences on operations properly but it's a big nasty bag of PTSD and I prefer it closed for now ( I haven't had nightmares for a while but I do wake up on alert far too often but way less than two years ago and hearing Range west excercises less intrusive.
Talking is good and riding a bike, camping and just breathing


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PostPosted: Tue May 08, 2018 11:01 pm 
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I imagine PTSD is terrible, I could not cope with reliving traumatic experiences. I would love to get back into riding but I've let myself go :( badly :facepalm:

There are quite a few it seams on here in difficulties. I hope bikes help all on here. I'm pleased to say I've just finished my daughter's Orange C16R after a year and it looks awesome

Alison


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PostPosted: Tue May 08, 2018 11:13 pm 
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Alison wrote:
I imagine PTSD is terrible, I could not cope with reliving traumatic experiences. I would love to get back into riding but I've let myself go :( badly :facepalm:

There are quite a few it seams on here in difficulties. I hope bikes help all on here. I'm pleased to say I've just finished my daughter's Orange C16R after a year and it looks awesome

Alison


Baby steps Alison, just start with very short rides until it becomes fun again. I am just beginning the process again myself.......

I am a fine one to talk though, as I have just spent the last hour :cry: :cry: :cry: :cry: Enough struggling with the D word, lost my Mum to cancer in early February. I have been her primary carer for the last 10 years (since we lost Dad to cancer too)..... I miss them both so much.....


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PostPosted: Tue May 08, 2018 11:21 pm 
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kermitgreenkona88 wrote:
Alison wrote:
I imagine PTSD is terrible, I could not cope with reliving traumatic experiences. I would love to get back into riding but I've let myself go :( badly :facepalm:

There are quite a few it seams on here in difficulties. I hope bikes help all on here. I'm pleased to say I've just finished my daughter's Orange C16R after a year and it looks awesome

Alison


Baby steps Alison, just start with very short rides until it becomes fun again. I am just beginning the process again myself.......

I am a fine one to talk though, as I have just spent the last hour :cry: :cry: :cry: :cry: Enough struggling with the D word, lost my Mum to cancer in early February. I have been her primary carer for the last 10 years (since we lost Dad to cancer too)..... I miss them both so much.....


Thanks :) Sorry you lost your parents. Never had a dad but wonder how I'd cope with the loss of my mum. My daughter asked me to do something about myself as she didn't want to loose me, nice to know you mean so much to your children :)

Alison


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