how does the st4 ride?
i like it very much but it is so active that it doesn't climb as well as a 5, basically the leverage ratio on the shock is higher so it sort of squats down a bit, i've got round it abit by running the shock a little harder than i usually would, i've spoken to mojo and they recommended that when i get the shock serviced i could have it revalved to increase the overall amount of propedal which would make it climb better but i'm gonna get on to tim at tf tuned to have a chat with him aswell, he is the suspension god who must be obeyed!
trails and downhill though, jesus!!
fudging amazin! the handling is so good, i'm running a revalation dual air u-turn and downhill with 130mm travel is so good and the rear end feels like it goes on for more than 4 inches.
if you want to see what it looks like it's on the "modern bike" thread, page 9 i think.
having got one i would say it's better as a play xc/trail bike rather than a full on xc rig, i've ridden the 5 aswell and i think when i can afford it i'll go for the new alpine 5 that is coming out for '09.
check out the myorange site (links from orange home page) to see some prototype photos for that and the patriot for '09. also my bikes are on there aswell, user name jonnyboy666 again.
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