highlandsflyer wrote:
As far as 'holier than thou'; who is? The people who, with no evidence, assume the taking of a life is going to redress some balance or deter offenders?
I don't know what evidence you need to see that if we executed these cnuts there would be balance. In fact it would be in our favour 2:1.
highlandsflyer wrote:
I would insist our societal values need not account for those of other nations. We make our own laws and follow our own path. We don't consult Somalia to form our policy on pirates, we don't go to Iran looking for answers on adultery. We value due process over summary execution.
What we really value is the 'right' for people to basically do as they like regardless of the consequences for others. Or so we are told. I believe proper control and punishment in schools would be welcomed. I believe the death penalty would be welcomed for certain crimes. I believe the rights of children and their families trump the rights of the likes of Jon Venables to have a quiet life. I don't care if death isn't a deterrent because prison demonstrably isn't. At least if they're dead they're not doing it again and they're not costing us money. We can have due process
and execution, the two aren't mutually exclusive.
We could do worse than look to other states for inspiration. We do it all the time anyway, be it healthcare, schooling, immigration etc. Trouble is we only seem to look to other pussy euro states with the same liberal outlook we purport to have. That's working well.
Sometimes I forget I am on Retrobike and think I'm reading CIF.
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