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 Post subject: Re: Maggie Maggie Maggie
PostPosted: Mon Apr 08, 2013 10:43 pm 
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the irony being maggie was born in true working class enviorement as her father owned and worked in a grocers..


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 Post subject: Re: Maggie Maggie Maggie
PostPosted: Mon Apr 08, 2013 10:48 pm 
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Our society is a mix of socialism and capitalism.

Bragg, nor anyone else, needs explain themselves in that circumstance.

Besides, Bragg is richer than you so what would you know about being a socialist pop singer?


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 Post subject: Re: Maggie Maggie Maggie
PostPosted: Tue Apr 09, 2013 3:35 am 
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gibbleking wrote:
odd how wilson created the 3 day work and caused the downfall of british industry thru militancy and yet some how she was vilified more..


If you actually mean the 3 day week, it was Heath, Thatcher's predecessor as Tory leader that brought that in.
Wilson? A militant? You're talking complete bollocks.
Might be a good idea to have a wee read on recent British history since WW2.

Tramp the dirt down.


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 Post subject: Re: Maggie Maggie Maggie
PostPosted: Tue Apr 09, 2013 8:42 am 
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it was late...i got them the wrong way round.....goes back to sleep... :oops:


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 Post subject: Re: Maggie Maggie Maggie
PostPosted: Tue Apr 09, 2013 8:54 am 
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Socialism, a system where good sand commodities are created directly for use rather than for sale and private nprofit, and not the accumulation of private capital.

So by his very act of decrying capitalism Bragg has become a capitalist, with the big house, big BMW, and big bank balance.

Now, perhaps you can explain how he can be a capitalist AND a socialist at the same time?



You are a dick.


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 Post subject: Re: Maggie Maggie Maggie
PostPosted: Tue Apr 09, 2013 9:50 am 
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Well, that's Ben Elton and Alexei Sayle both out of a job.


Nah, Elton will just carry on churning out dire musicals based on artists' back catalogues.

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 Post subject: Re: Maggie Maggie Maggie
PostPosted: Tue Apr 09, 2013 10:03 am 
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Billy Bragg can't sing, can't stand the man..........just using that angle to gain fame and money. I hate all parties they are all shit at their jobs, the higher they go the less they care about you and me......it's human nature '' i'm alright jack''..................i've done it myself to my shame..........when i was in long employment i joined in saying, oh there's loads of jobs, they are just lazy crap, i know things always change, but non of the parties are any better or worse than each other these days...........we are just given a sence of choice...these days that is all........it's all about the most profit to the least amount of people.............were run by the Ferengi of deep space 9.

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 Post subject: Re: Maggie Maggie Maggie
PostPosted: Tue Apr 09, 2013 10:20 am 
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Billy Bragg can't sing, can't stand the man..........just using that angle to gain fame and money.


Bragg's influence also has to be held indirectly part-responsible for the rise to prominence of the hugely over-rated (IMO) Frank Turner*. Is it just me or does it seem a wee bit hypocritical for an Old Etonian to go around taking a pop at bankers when that was what his old man did for a living (and thereby paid for his elite private education)?

David

*Had the misfortune to see him live (other half at the time's choice, not mine) about 3 years ago; didn't know of his background back then but there seemed something artificial about his whole "I'm just like you guys in the audience" sincerity. On reflection, no better than Cameron/Osborne's "we're all in this together" flannel.


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 Post subject: Re: Maggie Maggie Maggie
PostPosted: Tue Apr 09, 2013 10:57 am 
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As the son of a miner, whom watched his dad's work close due to the work being shipped abroad, and then saw his dad die of a heart attack, I was brought up through the Hatchet years. My mum had to work two jobs and bring up two kids and we nearly lost the house on several occasions. There were no jobs as the major industries had been wiped out by the Hatchet government, so I and my yoofful cronies road our bikes, signed on and attended every p!ss poor YTS excuse in order to gain employment.

Most of my friends moved abroad or moved to London to scrape a wage. I saw families torn apart, houses burnt out, drug use escalate, men and sons scavenging on the local tip to find old copper and the like to feed their families, mothers on street corners trying to hustle a wage for a school uniform for their kids etc.

I was at a friend's house watching TV when Hatchet was voted in. I was only a kid and I remember my friend's dad saying to his family, "Well that's me stuffed..." I didn't understand what he meant. However, 18 months later, my mate's dad had lost his job in management at a local firm and their house was put up for sale. They moved from a fairly wealthy lifestyle to proper working class surroundings. Here was a bloke I used to see go to work in a suit and tie and drive a nice car. Now he was in overalls and driving a banger. This was an eye opener to me at an early age as to what was happening.

I have lived all over Blighty and travelled to several parts of the world. Britain is in a bad way. I was hoping for a New Blair Order to wipe out the yuppiedom of the Hatchet years, but New Labour has created an even scarier breed of individual whom will sh!t on their workmates whilst chasing the dollar. Britain is dirty from the top to the bottom. This is what Thatcher's Children have spawned.


I was watching all the brown-noses on the box this morn talking about how Hatchet was the first British woman Prime Minister.

My Mum is a woman, and she kept a family together, fed her kids and a roof over our heads. Whilst Hatchet did the complete opposite and spat families onto the streets.

I can't see why Kate Garraway keeps harping on about how Hatchet was a woman. :roll:

If they put up a statue for Hatchet, I will hire a JCB and fecking demolish it, but then again, I think I'll have to get in the queue.

For me, Moggie Hatchet can only synonymous with one word...

poverty.


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 Post subject: Re: Maggie Maggie Maggie
PostPosted: Tue Apr 09, 2013 11:26 am 
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Just about everything that is plain rotten in UK today (bankers, greed, monopoly private utilities owned overseas, housing shortage, soon to be privatised NHS, gross and growing inequality....) can be laid at Thatcher's door (and her henchmen like Joseph).

Thatcher. BIH.


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