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PostPosted: Thu Mar 14, 2013 11:32 am 
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I still don't understand the farrage is a xenophobe comment?

They currently reflect I feel what most people are worried about...not immigration but uncontrolled immigration where so many are coming in at an age where they have put nothing in but are taking it out away from our children and grand children and however you dress it up it is not xenophobic to discuss a current problem

salmon was a one trick pony and now he's got there he has pretty much joined the establishment having run out of ideas..the same will happen to farage and ukip but..they are what was needed at that time as I suspect ukip are and there is very little doubt in my mind that we have become the dumping ground of europe and the country most know they can take the pee out of with very little consequence

I am not a thatcherite nor do I believe she was always right...I do however have the greatest respect for her on the way she handled europe and how she made sure Britain was placed before all else instead of what we have become now ,that being a franchise of the united states of europe. I feel for many many years people haven't felt proud to be british and this could be dealt with

as to prescott..a typical ex union socialist who whilst proclaiming to be from the people and representing the people, he lined his pockets just as they other champagne socilaists did...feeding from the trough is not just a tory thing..labour have it down patt too


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PostPosted: Thu Mar 14, 2013 12:06 pm 
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HeMGqTwWA6U

i know he's American and talking about America....but this translates pretty well over here i feel.


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PostPosted: Thu Mar 14, 2013 12:16 pm 
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With respect, SalmonD is no 'one trick pony'.

He has taken the SNP from marginal to central, from wild cards to natural governors.

They are not going to disappear in the foreseeable future.

I have mixed feelings about UKIP. They are perhaps daft to even talk about coalition with the Tories, plenty of their members find that idea as repugnant as the Lib Dems found it.

Any party that takes the wind out of the BNP's sails has its place though.

I am very interested to see how the current coalition deal with the necessity to separate before the next election.

You want an example of disingenuous politicking? Watch out for every statement from these clowns, as they weave their deception on the British public in a cynical ploy to cling on to power.


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PostPosted: Thu Mar 14, 2013 1:12 pm 
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I can't see how any of that makes him any different to any other actor on the political stage.

If you want a Commons full of Lembit Öpiks that is up to you.

I prefer my politicians fierce and 'full of it'.

Give me a John Prescott over a John Major any day of the week. I want the punch in the face not the poke in the ribs.

Don't get me wrong, it's not the fire I object to, per se - it's the use of it and some of the duplicitous manner in which he (being generous) tries to play devil's advocate - so no problem with the fierce bit - more the "full of it" bit.

I know I've mentioned it more than once - but doing CBB for the reasons he did, when he did - bad form. If he wanted a higher profile, or to get down with the youth, or whatever specious excuse he gave, he should have done that through his day job, without being deliberatly controversial, yet he didn't.

As for Lembit Öpik what makes you think I don't have just as much criticism, albeit, maybe for slightly different reasons.

Prescott - well whilst I admire some of his directness, and his almost retro-ethos, he's almost the antithesis of progressive.


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PostPosted: Fri Mar 15, 2013 10:25 pm 
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highlandsflyer wrote:
I can't see how any of that makes him any different to any other actor on the political stage.

If you want a Commons full of Lembit Öpiks that is up to you.

I prefer my politicians fierce and 'full of it'.

Give me a John Prescott over a John Major any day of the week. I want the punch in the face not the poke in the ribs.


He certainly is 'full of it'
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PostPosted: Sat Mar 16, 2013 12:52 am 
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highlandsflyer wrote:
With respect, SalmonD is no 'one trick pony'.

He has taken the SNP from marginal to central, from wild cards to natural governors.

That's as much due to the shambolic nature of Scottish Labour over the last decade or so than any real shift towards independence, Salmond or the SNP imo.

Henry and his financial scandal. Wee Wendy with her own. Followed by hapless Gray and ineffective Lamont. Scots don't vote Tory, Scots south of Perth don't vote LibDem. It's a choice between Labour and SNP and Labour are a joke. That's how we end up with an SNP majority and hardly anyone wanting independence.


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PostPosted: Sat Mar 16, 2013 2:22 am 
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The SNP wisely addressed all areas of policy, rather than sitting on their hands mooting independence as the answer to everything. That is what has led to them receiving broader support; they have far too much support now for it to be purely from the independence lobby.

Blairite Labour was never needed for socialist success in Scotland. Props to the Scots for looking beyond Labour for a genuine socialist solution; and looking beyond the superficial single issue politics tag the SNP have outgrown yet are continually painted with by the ignorants in Westminster.


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PostPosted: Sat Mar 16, 2013 3:49 am 
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Props to the Scots for looking beyond Labour for a genuine socialist solution;
There's no such a thing as a socialist solution. We'd soon find that out when London's money dries up after independence.

There aren't enough rich people in Scotland to pay for it. And if there are then we don't need socialism. Or independence.


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PostPosted: Sat Mar 16, 2013 4:53 am 
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You don't know your toffee from your candy floss.


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PostPosted: Sat Mar 16, 2013 6:10 am 
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highlandsflyer wrote:
You don't know your toffee from your candy floss.



Especially when it comes to popcorn.

Hotdogs are a whole other ball game :shock: :shock:


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