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PostPosted: Sat Feb 09, 2013 7:46 pm 
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Had a pre-move clearout the other day and came across a copy of Richard II which I studied for English Literature 'O' level. Loads of hand written notes in the margin but having a quick scan through I was totally lost to the meaning. Makes me think did the original audience for these productions have a clue what the play was about, or was it an excuse to get out of the slums for the night?


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PostPosted: Sat Feb 09, 2013 9:58 pm 
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I think the key is to read it aloud in your head, if you see what I mean, as opposed to reading it like a book - they're not books, they're scripts! It can be hard going at times, but much like the cryptic crosswords in the broadsheets, once you start to get the gist it gets a lot easier. Chaucer is similar, once you get into it, it just sounds like a strong regional accent.


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PostPosted: Sat Feb 09, 2013 10:07 pm 
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greenstiles wrote:
They still speak like that in places like Tipton...........yeh me faver kim om tut see thee ad a mark upon thy big two wert a bee verily ad placed itself upon thee....

Spend some time there you'll soon understand Shaky

big two= big toe.


Historians reckon that how Shakespeare himself spoke wasn't too far removed from Black Country dialect. They're now saying something similar about hunchbacked car-park cluttering ex-monarch Richard III, whose speech was supposedly West rather than East Midlands despite those Leicester connections (however, if you are still wondering what a physically grotesque man with a Leicester accent sounds like, the jug-eared crisp merchant is on MoTD later tonight I believe.... ;) ).

David


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PostPosted: Sat Feb 09, 2013 10:16 pm 
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REKIBorter wrote:
Had a pre-move clearout the other day and came across a copy of Richard II which I studied for English Literature 'O' level. Loads of hand written notes in the margin but having a quick scan through I was totally lost to the meaning. Makes me think did the original audience for these productions have a clue what the play was about, or was it an excuse to get out of the slums for the night?


I suspect the original audience was pretty clued-up on the gossip and undertone to a lot of the plays; if you played an episode of HIGNFY to someone a few hundred years from now, they probably wouldn't 'get' more than 10% of it (not an ideal comparison, but probably not far off when you factor in the differences in media).

I did Richard II at school, and found it pretty interesting, although if I hadn't had a copy of the 'York Notes' textbook I would've given up fairly quickly!


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PostPosted: Sat Feb 09, 2013 10:21 pm 
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David B wrote:
greenstiles wrote:
They still speak like that in places like Tipton...........yeh me faver kim om tut see thee ad a mark upon thy big two wert a bee verily ad placed itself upon thee....

Spend some time there you'll soon understand Shaky

big two= big toe.


Historians reckon that how Shakespeare himself spoke wasn't too far removed from Black Country dialect. They're now saying something similar about hunchbacked car-park cluttering ex-monarch Richard III, whose speech was supposedly West rather than East Midlands despite those Leicester connections (however, if you are still wondering what a physically grotesque man with a Leicester accent sounds like, the jug-eared crisp merchant is on MoTD later tonight I believe.... ;) ).

David


Leicester? Birth place of Britains fattest man http://www.wardsbookofdays.com/13march.htm

And the elephant man... http://www.leicesterchronicler.com/merrick.htm


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