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PostPosted: Sun Dec 02, 2012 9:37 pm 
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by the way, i fekin love teaching my specialism!!!


Which I'm assuming is not English.


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NeilM wrote:
longun wrote:
by the way, i fekin love teaching my specialism!!!


Which I'm assuming is not English.


nope :D thank f**k lol


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drystonepaul wrote:
I've worked in the Further Education and Alternative Education sectors for the past 11 years, teaching mostly A-Level, BTEC and other accredited and non accredited courses to a vast range of people.

I've worked in various areas and have worked with primary school kids, young offenders, young people with mental health issues, people with disabilities and groups of adult learners up to the age of 92.

One thing that I have learned (amongst many things) is that what you can teach is what individuals are willing to learn.

Aspiration, ambition and self motivation goes a long, long way.

Now there is only so much I can do as a teacher to inspire people.
What I find a bit depressing is that sometimes it feels that as teachers we're the only ones who are trying to do that.

Parental and cultural influence is a much overlooked factor when it comes to academic or vocational performance.


completely agree paul, been teaching in FE for 4 years now. parents need to take more responsibility as well. i have found that the secondary educational system is letting everyone down. privatising them will not cure anything imho.

by the way, i fekin love teaching my specialism!!!


Hello, hello "secondary educational system is letting everyone down" how come?


why do FE establishment now have to cater for including the functional skills into every curriculum? Ill tell you why, because some of the schools neglect the basic skills and knowledge required to maintain progressive development within learners aged 11-16. too much emphasis in making study fun relying on IT as a study aid, what is wrong with actual teaching instead of "look at the powerpoint". the basics have been lost and academies focus on gaining accredited results over actually teaching courses that help in life.

just my opinion here fella, but i deal with post secondary nearly everyday, and the skill levels are shocking.

they do so well in nursery, primary etc, but they are monitored more perhaps?

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disagre all you like but dont tell me what to teach my kids, at the moment a job in aldi is all this country has to offer no matter what your education, my daughter is no different to all the rest she wants to be a vet. shes just changed school from a pirtty decent first school to a shit middle school. she is currently lined up to go to the worst school in the country unless we can move to a different catchment area. i try to make as much difference i can but i know from experience that a decent school does matter.


Glad you clarified that, I was going to ask what a factory job is!


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disagre all you like but dont tell me what to teach my kids, at the moment a job in aldi is all this country has to offer no matter what your education, my daughter is no different to all the rest she wants to be a vet. shes just changed school from a pirtty decent first school to a shit middle school. she is currently lined up to go to the worst school in the country unless we can move to a different catchment area. i try to make as much difference i can but i know from experience that a decent school does matter.


I'm not telling you what to teach your kids, teach them whatever you want and tbh with your attitude to have as an example they'll have no chance.

'Aldi is all this country has to offer' There are other countries out there.

'My daughter is no different to all the rest' Really ? There's some good incentive for her, there you go honey you're no different from anyone else........

When I was at school we had a couple of lessons in how to sign on because there was f**k all work and very little hope of anything getting any better, a lot of my mates just gave up there and then and are still on the dole/sick or in shitty jobs, I didn't and took my exams and as soon as i could **** off to where I could find work, I've worked my way round europe, kept my eyes open and taken opportunities when they've come up and never borrowed a penny or got into stupid debt for things I don't need. Now I live in a **** chateau am as happy as a pig in shit and have a business where work is coming out of our ears, mainly because I never listened to those who said 'you won't be able or 'you can't' and my old man taught me that you have to work your cock off if you want anything.

Smug bastard ? Oh yes.


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I think that there is a certain degree of teaching to the exam in schools. It's almost learning to pass the exam rather than understanding the topic. I think that there is a difference between learning and understanding.


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I think that there is a certain degree of teaching to the exam in schools. It's almost learning to pass the exam rather than understanding the topic. I think that there is a difference between learning and understanding.


massive difference! recalling knowlegde does not define that a person can use, or apply it to something.


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Very true, how many teenagers actually understand things as opposed to knowing stuff ?
Possibly the secondary school school leaving age should be raised because honestly who knows what they want to do for the rest of their life when they're 16, christ I still don't know now.


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teenagers seem to get a lot of stick...but I believe that they are simply a product of their environment/education system.


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markyp wrote:
teenagers seem to get a lot of stick...but I believe that they are simply a product of their environment/education system.


true as well, but government, social trends and parents who feel its just our job to teach them do not help. the bigger picture is not clear, but then neither is the current, or retrospective opinions on teaching and education. not one entity is to blame but we dont help ourselves alot of the time.


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