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PostPosted: Thu Nov 29, 2012 11:16 pm 
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http://uk.lifestyle.yahoo.com/uk-educat ... 00692.html

So what do folks reckon? I reckon 2nd best in Europe and 6th best in the world isn't too bad go us...


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PostPosted: Thu Nov 29, 2012 11:31 pm 
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Yeah, right...


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PostPosted: Thu Nov 29, 2012 11:56 pm 
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postcode lottery, if you live in the right area your kids are groomed for uni the rest are factory fodder.

edit: dident answer the question, thers a lot more countrys id prefer my daughter to be educated in rather than the uk. i moved back to the uk for this very reason but im not sure i should have botherd


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PostPosted: Fri Nov 30, 2012 1:23 pm 
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lumos2000 wrote:
postcode lottery, if you live in the right area your kids are groomed for uni the rest are factory fodder.


Being groomed for uni is a lot of the problem with this country in my mind.
Academia is not the only answer to our educational needs.

I did uni after A levels and then an engineering apprenticeship, and it was the apprenticeship that taught me how to do a skilled/professional job and has since earned me a decent amount of money.


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PostPosted: Fri Nov 30, 2012 3:03 pm 
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Well having taught briefly in the UK and with 2 kids in Danish schools, I'm not ENTIRELY surprised that the Danes are lagging behind the UK.


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PostPosted: Fri Nov 30, 2012 6:09 pm 
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lumos2000 wrote:
postcode lottery, if you live in the right area your kids are groomed for uni the rest are factory fodder.


Sorry don't agree. My daughter lives in a right shithole (not my choice, my exes) she has always wanted to be a zoologist since she was tiny, she's never lost sight of that and is chasing it with all her heart, has been allowed to do the 3 sciences and has already been offered college places.. The school she goes to isn't the best on earth but the teachers are willing to help her because she's helping herself. She's always been taught you get nowt for free and if you want something you have to try your hardest to get it. Damn right I'm proud of her.

Lumos, if you teach your kids what you've written they'll be lucky to get job at Aldi.


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PostPosted: Fri Nov 30, 2012 6:28 pm 
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I've worked in the Further Education and Alternative Education sectors for the past 11 years, teaching mostly A-Level, BTEC and other accredited and non accredited courses to a vast range of people.

I've worked in various areas and have worked with primary school kids, young offenders, young people with mental health issues, people with disabilities and groups of adult learners up to the age of 92.

One thing that I have learned (amongst many things) is that what you can teach is what individuals are willing to learn.

Aspiration, ambition and self motivation goes a long, long way.

Now there is only so much I can do as a teacher to inspire people.
What I find a bit depressing is that sometimes it feels that as teachers we're the only ones who are trying to do that.

Parental and cultural influence is a much overlooked factor when it comes to academic or vocational performance.


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PostPosted: Fri Nov 30, 2012 6:42 pm 
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disagre all you like but dont tell me what to teach my kids, at the moment a job in aldi is all this country has to offer no matter what your education, my daughter is no different to all the rest she wants to be a vet. shes just changed school from a pirtty decent first school to a shit middle school. she is currently lined up to go to the worst school in the country unless we can move to a different catchment area. i try to make as much difference i can but i know from experience that a decent school does matter.


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PostPosted: Fri Nov 30, 2012 6:57 pm 
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drystonepaul wrote:
I've worked in the Further Education and Alternative Education sectors for the past 11 years, teaching mostly A-Level, BTEC and other accredited and non accredited courses to a vast range of people.

I've worked in various areas and have worked with primary school kids, young offenders, young people with mental health issues, people with disabilities and groups of adult learners up to the age of 92.

One thing that I have learned (amongst many things) is that what you can teach is what individuals are willing to learn.

Aspiration, ambition and self motivation goes a long, long way.

Now there is only so much I can do as a teacher to inspire people.
What I find a bit depressing is that sometimes it feels that as teachers we're the only ones who are trying to do that.

Parental and cultural influence is a much overlooked factor when it comes to academic or vocational performance.


completely agree paul, been teaching in FE for 4 years now. parents need to take more responsibility as well. i have found that the secondary educational system is letting everyone down. privatising them will not cure anything imho.

by the way, i fekin love teaching my specialism!!!


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PostPosted: Sun Dec 02, 2012 9:32 pm 
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longun wrote:
drystonepaul wrote:
I've worked in the Further Education and Alternative Education sectors for the past 11 years, teaching mostly A-Level, BTEC and other accredited and non accredited courses to a vast range of people.

I've worked in various areas and have worked with primary school kids, young offenders, young people with mental health issues, people with disabilities and groups of adult learners up to the age of 92.

One thing that I have learned (amongst many things) is that what you can teach is what individuals are willing to learn.

Aspiration, ambition and self motivation goes a long, long way.

Now there is only so much I can do as a teacher to inspire people.
What I find a bit depressing is that sometimes it feels that as teachers we're the only ones who are trying to do that.

Parental and cultural influence is a much overlooked factor when it comes to academic or vocational performance.


completely agree paul, been teaching in FE for 4 years now. parents need to take more responsibility as well. i have found that the secondary educational system is letting everyone down. privatising them will not cure anything imho.

by the way, i fekin love teaching my specialism!!!


Hello, hello "secondary educational system is letting everyone down" how come?


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