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PostPosted: Fri Aug 24, 2012 12:19 am 
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as i get older i find this country i live in winds me up.
there was a time when i felt glad to be british.
i have a neighbour, he is a healthy 25 year old with a girlfriend and 2 children. he can afford to drink & smoke. comes home with tons of shopping in his brand new ford focus. yet he hasnt worked a day in his life.
i can think of around 5 to 10 people in a similar situation around where i live.
since i left school i have worked to make a living for myself and my family.
and i am proud to be able to pay my way in life, yet i seem to be working to pay bills these days, everything just costs more week in week out.
it just seems unfair so many people can get away with screwing the system. no wonder we are in a resession.
and my other neighbour who is polish has just moved his 70 year old parents to this country. who is going to support them ?

i am just losing faith in this country i have to live in.

please dont take this as a dig at foreign people or genuine people.

it is a dig at the people who run this country.

rant over, i'm going to bed then get up to do another 8 hours.
the bonus for me is i get to go to work on a nice pace rc100.

i just need to let off a bit of steam, hope tomorrow is better day.


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PostPosted: Fri Aug 24, 2012 12:28 am 
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I could go on, but I agree with you. I have worked since I was 13 with a paper round, then carried on with various part time jobs until I finished uni. I do see so many people working the system and it winds me up, especially when my girlfriend & I pay quite a lot in tax every month... I just think to myself "I pay for you to laze about". It's not healthy because I believe in a welfare state to help those in need but it's just gone to pot now.


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PostPosted: Fri Aug 24, 2012 12:36 am 
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smoking and drinking he wont be healthy 30yo

the world needs the under class to make people like you feel better about the shite existence you have

the real drain on society live in a big palace in london


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PostPosted: Fri Aug 24, 2012 12:40 am 
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I worked for 30 years (26 years for the same company). Had to give up full-time employment due to ill health in October 2011. Would love to get my health back and earn a desent wage again. Thank goodness for permanent health insurance (which I paid into for 25 years).

Earning good money is under-rated.


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PostPosted: Fri Aug 24, 2012 12:54 am 
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what happened to great britain....simple it stopped being Great

Succesive Labour goverments wanting to be seen as multicultural and welcoming have diluted Britishness to a point where it's rarely seen possible to be a brit and more likely to be seen as a country with so much diversity that no one nationality dominates.

This is not aginst anyone just an observation.

Also we took on maggies wish ..it's out there if you want it..unfortuneatly that message went beyond our shores and now most utilities are owned by foreign countries and where we led the way it's a way now gone..think landrover and tata

Parents...instead of giving their gobby little shite a clip round the ear we seem now denied of our responsibility when our kids do something wrong and always look for a scape goat

Justice..we seem to allow a justice system that attacks the victim rather than the offenders

The list could go on and on..but I doubt it's exclusive to our generation as I'm sure our grandparents probably thought the same thing about the country going to ruin and damnation


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PostPosted: Fri Aug 24, 2012 1:07 am 
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it was never great

simple

tories treat everyone like shite then blame it all on labour


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PostPosted: Fri Aug 24, 2012 2:15 am 
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So it was the tories who signed us upto the human rights act and opened our borders for all and sundry to come in, took us into iraq and afghanistan, labour mp's claiming bad bad tories all about the money but then go onto be socilalist millionares themselves ala tony blair?

My what an interesting logic you have


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PostPosted: Fri Aug 24, 2012 5:33 am 
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bigmick wrote:
smoking and drinking he wont be healthy 30yo

the world needs the under class to make people like you feel better about the shite existence you have

the real drain on society live in a big palace in london


to be honest i have a very good existence thanks, i'm just saying what a lot of people are afraid to say.
but health is definitely more important than wealth.


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PostPosted: Fri Aug 24, 2012 7:15 am 
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What a load of bollocks some people are spouting. The problem with the UK can be summed up with two words, greed and arrogance. Forgien workers taking all the jobs ? again bollocks, if the great british populace had not become so arrogant that work such as fruit picking and cleaning were below them and the manual trades brickkies, chippies etc hadn't become so greedy and charged through the roof for a days work and the larger companies had not said 'bloody hell you'll work for half of what we pay the other blokes' and cut their labour bills by 50% without cutting their prices then there would have not been the work there for them to be tempted by.
Arrogance, people some will say 'I'm desperate for a job' but if you said ok then off you go 65 quid a day to work out in the pissing rain or boiling sun picking fruit & veg or sitting on your arse on a production line, then they'll say but I'm a qualified market analyst I won't do that.
Greed, the fact that people have to work so many hours to pay for their credit card buy now pay later life style that it a has an adverse effect on the job market. If the larger industries hadn't been privatised stripped bare by succesive governments then sold to global corporations who immediately outsourced anything they could, this goes for councils and tendering too.

If the banks had not got so greedy and lent huge sums of money to the american banking institutions who the lent it to greedy people who wanted a house much larger than they could afford and then couldn't repay the debt and the housing market crashed in the states. That is the main cause behind the global recession.

Thing is there is all this ranting and bitching about Great Britain, it's a fantastic country, here we are on a forum where a lot of money is spent on recreating cycling marvels from a very short period in the history of cycling, how lucky or possibly greedy are you to be able to do that? If you told some poor sod living on llama turds in the Attacama that you've just blown his equivalent of 8 months wages on a frame because it was made by so a nd so on a the last Tuesday in February on the day of a full moon, he'd think you were insane, get a sense of perspective it's a bike for christ's sake. How many on here have more than one bike ? You can only ride one at a time...greed again.
Would you rather live in the states where cash is king and not even working hard is a guarantee of a good lifestyle or in Burundi where people will kill you for a pair of trousers and your family for a pair of shoes.
Britain could be great again, all it would take is a bit of dedication to put community before consumerism, of course it would mean a bit of sacrifice and hard work........


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PostPosted: Fri Aug 24, 2012 8:27 am 
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The above post is the most sensible thing this far in the thread.


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