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 Post subject: Go with a Kona!
PostPosted: Tue Jun 05, 2007 10:33 am 
Posh Mark
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Lucky one £1000 on a spanking new bike!

As a Kona fan I am biased!

The Kona Explosif is a cracking bike and if you are able to buy a 2006 model rather than a 2007 model one could be had for £899.99

Dedacciai steel frame – single speedable (sliding dropouts)

The fork may not be much cop but the frame is quality. Dirt magazine had a review of the frame recently and they said some very good things.

Like I say I am biased towards Kona – and the Kona I have is a steel framed one (1999 Caldera).

The Genesis altitude bike that Hilts mentions is a cracker too – my LBS had a couple of the Genesis range in over the last couple of months (including the single speed) and the frames are really well made.

I hope this helps?????!!!!!!


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PostPosted: Tue Jun 05, 2007 10:39 am 
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Hmmmm, not sure about 2006 bikes. I'll call the helpline and ask. I think i'm limited to what is available through distributers, old stock will have already been sold off cheap to retailers so probably isn't available. Worth a punt though.

Not come across Genesis before, anyone got any more info on them? I've found their website, what's their story? Handbuilt at all?


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PostPosted: Tue Jun 05, 2007 1:00 pm 
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You can't get sale bikes on these schemes (although the bike shop might have a way around it - definitely worth asking them!)


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PostPosted: Tue Jun 05, 2007 1:05 pm 
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Just thinking - if this were a really ecologically friendly scheme you should be able to buy 'retro-bikes' through it. No carbon footprint from a second hand bike!


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PostPosted: Tue Jun 05, 2007 1:06 pm 
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That Genesis Altitude 2.0 looks a decent bit of kit; 853 main tubes with butted cro-mo stays. For £1000 the whole bike is not exactly uber-exciting but at £350 for the frame, it's tempting.

I think i might not bother with the cycle to work scheme and just build a new bike out of that frame. It's way better value than the P7 or EVO8 frames that Orange are selling, and probably a damn sight lighter too.

I constantly amuse myself with how rapidly my bike purchase plans change :roll:


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PostPosted: Tue Jun 05, 2007 4:33 pm 
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Seems steel frames are a thriving cottage industry in the UK:

Sanderson Life:

http://www.independent100.com/sandersonproducts.htm

Charge Duster

http://www.chargebikes.com/products/

Both around that £350 price point. Frames around the 4.5lb mark too, why did Orange stop making these???


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PostPosted: Tue Jun 05, 2007 4:44 pm 
BoTM Winner / retrobike rider
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Tallpaul wrote:
I constantly amuse myself with how rapidly my bike purchase plans change :roll:


I can second that - three months ago i would have sold my granny for a vintage Klein Attitude. Now i want a Cove Stiffee FR or Yeti 575! Can't afford any of them mind :cry:


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PostPosted: Wed Jun 06, 2007 10:47 am 
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Anyone know anything about Sanderson or Charge?

I think it's a three way split between Sanderson, Charge and Genesis.

Genesis are edging it purely because i'm a little more comforted knowing Ridgeback are behind them. Still, that Sanderson is mighty pretty...


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PostPosted: Wed Jun 06, 2007 11:59 am 
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I was checking out the Sanderson before I chose the Genesis. it was a very nice frame but to build it up to the standard that you got the Genesis off the peg was quite a bit more. Wasn't sure on the Grey frame (the racing green appealed but they don't have any currently)..
I had a lot of contact with one of the product managers for Genesis who told me a great deal about the bikes and their ethos, absolutely top bloke and that swung it in the end for me, they offered to switch bits if i wasn't happy with Stem length etc....

I think the Charge Duster is quite a lot more money..


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PostPosted: Wed Jun 06, 2007 12:30 pm 
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Frame Only Prices:

Genesis: £349.99 delivered
Sanderson: £369.99 + postage
Charge: £349.99 + postage

Buying frame only as i have Middleburn/XT Groupo, Mavic/Hope Wheels, Hope Mono Minis, Pace Forks and USE/Hope/Flite finishing kit to build with.


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