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PostPosted: Tue Dec 04, 2018 12:56 am 
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Lie-Neilsen that is :D

For years I've struggled with a Stanley No271 (Grannies tooth) even on some quite wide dados. Kept meaning to pick up its larger more useful cousin.
It's actually broken on the open side, and is slipping on the closed end.
I persevere :( Hey ho.

The larger is the Stanley pattern(Assuming viewers don't know)No71. Stanley pretty much wrote the book on the numbering system still used by all makers to this very day.

Stanley router planes, even 2nd hand ones made 60 years ago sell on ebay for usually £80, as they are extremely useful over a variety of jobs.

80 isnt cheap, especially for a specialist plane ill use, but not as often as I would like. It is very good at its job, and very useful to have to hand. Very quick to set up and sort the particular problem.

Sorry, I do go on.
Actually its a Scottish trait. If you notice the incredible number of posts of the MacRetro section, compared to any and all of the other area sections combined. We Scots like to talk.

So anyway.
Ive a workshop to fit out, which includes lots of stopped and through dados for the shelves in the built in units, rebates and the like and the router plane is spot on for quickly adjusting them.
What better excuse should anybody ever need :D

Stanley 80 minimum, ok they go lower but seems about its price.

I never look at the other makers because i pretty much cannot afford them.
Stanley is the Orange Clockwork of the plane world, does the job well, but it aint fancy.

But I happened upon a maker called Lie-Neilsen.
An American company we (all the woody's) know about mainly because theyre really expensive, but unlike others and even Stanley, they will produce just about every Stanley pattern, even the weird obscure ones that have fallen out of use as we dont build wooden coaches anymore.
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They're going to last well past the original owners lifetime.

Usually ignored due to cost I happen upon one seller doing them at £99, when they're usually £140
Good Scottish bargain there :D

The only thing with this seller is the time for delivery. Based UK but delivery was nearly 4 weeks. I got that same impression from the feedback. Be patient. Damn worth it for 40 quid off :lol:

I look forward to getting some use out of it 8)


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PostPosted: Tue Dec 04, 2018 1:16 am 
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Nice, I have the Veritas router plane and it's a joy to use too. The price of these tools seems to have rocketed over the past few years, even wrecked old stanleys are going for not much less than a brand new one L-N or Veritas! Looks like you got a good deal though ( I paid a tenner more for mine a couple of years ago but I see they're £150 now.)

I remember that in the woodwork rooms at school there were several of the Preston pattern router planes at the top of the cupboards but nobody ever used them or even knew what they were; any kind of rebate in our projects was done by a teacher with a plunge router (being too dangerous for teenagers to handle.)

The router planes were probably chucked out years ago...


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PostPosted: Tue Dec 04, 2018 9:17 pm 
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Aye, the veritas planes are very nice and im in the market for a new block plane. Just cant get on with either stanley versions -9 1/2+60 1/2.

TBH a rebating block plane is what im after :? Always found myself wishing the one i was using was rebating. Again worthy reasons :lol:

Veritas are good at making the million and one things you dont really need, and Ive been guilty with some of their wee odd and ends. Saddle square, dovetail markers and the like. Very tacky bits some of them, but their planes are nice for sure. Like LN and stanley, they work well and are well made.


I looked at plough planes a couple of years ago, with the intention of at least putting it to use occasionally, somewhere. And prices were cheap, usually including every attachment you can think of, but now I looked and its silly money.
I'd rather have another wee 240v router .


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PostPosted: Tue Dec 04, 2018 10:06 pm 
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dyna-ti wrote:
I looked at plough planes a couple of years ago, with the intention of at least putting it to use occasionally, somewhere. And prices were cheap, usually including every attachment you can think of, but now I looked and its silly money.
I'd rather have another wee 240v router .


I could hardly justify a Veritas plough plane when I picked up a complete Marples 44 on eBay a few years ago for £5.50 + P&P...

it lacks the depth adjustment screw of other plough planes but so long as you keep it sharp and set it carefully it does the job fine (probably wouldn't want to use it to earn my living, but for occasional hobby use I'd rather this than a noisy router.)


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PostPosted: Wed Dec 05, 2018 6:06 pm 
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@£5.50 you cant go wrong, and as you say it's occasional use keeps it going. But its like here, old bikes and people ride them rather than a modern bike. Recycle.

You see lots of really good quality chisels on ebay. All old cast steels and carbides and they currently go for little.
Japanese are 60-70 each but an old Sheffield is just as good if not better given you can get 5 for the same outlay.

Talking of outlay :facepalm:
I went out for steel wool, and came home with no steel wool, but a 36" record sash cramp and an estwing weight forward hammer :oops: :lol:


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