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 Post subject: Condor MTB????
PostPosted: Sun Oct 25, 2009 11:33 pm 
Dirt Disciple

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Greetings;
I purchased this frameset in 1988, from a shop in Germany while there with the Forces. It was used, taken as a trade, however never built up. There is a Condor head badge, it's lugged and brazed Tange Prestige, but I've always suspected it isn't a Condor. I don't believe Condor ever made MTB's or used Tange tubes. I used it for years as a work bike in Germany, and later here in the Colonies. Since I recently retired to Florida, I'm now using it to cruise the local forest and back roads. Can any of you Retro MTB Guru's tell me if it is in fact a Condor. Thanks
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Carl in Ocala


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PostPosted: Mon Oct 26, 2009 4:11 pm 
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Condor did offer an MTB in their range - called the Cadenza. I'm only familiar with the early-mid nineties model, and I haven't seen one in years, but it was fillet brazed with a sleeved seat-tube junction. The ones I've seen used a "Condor" engraved bottom bracket shell. The only one I've seen with a rigid fork had a broad, cast crown, rather than a unicrown.

Executive summary: Condor did make an MTB. I don't know enough about them to know whether or not yours is one.


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PostPosted: Mon Oct 26, 2009 5:16 pm 
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Incidentally, Condor had moved further up Grays Inn Road to number 144 by the time I got to know them. It seems the shop at number 90 was shut by 1980, which makes it seem unlikely your headbadge is original to the frame:

http://www.classiclightweights.co.uk/de ... ondor.html


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PostPosted: Wed Nov 04, 2009 2:57 pm 
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I'll add that I've just spotted a "Condor Countryman" in this list of "Production Mountainbikes" from 1985:

http://www.retrobike.co.uk/forum/files/ ... k2_213.jpg

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Possible that Condor were still using up stock of older head badges in the mid '80s?

Have you contacted Condor themselves? It's a family-run business, and there'll still be staff there who were in the shop 25 years ago.


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PostPosted: Sat Nov 14, 2009 9:06 pm 
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Cleaning up an old hard drive, I just came across some scans of a 1994 Condor catalogue. It's obviously too late to be relevant to your bike, but I thought I'd upload them in case someone was searching for Condor mtb's and ended up here.

It looks as though they'd basically build what you asked them to, using a variety of tubes and construction options. The bike in the first set of pictures is clearly lugged, while the frame on the second page is fillet brazed. The first looks to have a Condor unicrown fork, while the scond has what looks like a Kona P2.


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PostPosted: Fri May 21, 2010 12:48 pm 
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one-eyed_jim wrote:
Incidentally, Condor had moved further up Grays Inn Road to number 144 by the time I got to know them. It seems the shop at number 90 was shut by 1980, which makes it seem unlikely your headbadge is original to the frame:

http://www.classiclightweights.co.uk/de ... ondor.html

Don't mind me.

This interesting Condor road bike:

http://www.flickr.com/photos/markgell/4 ... 287172539/

comes with a "90 Grays Inn Road" head badge:

http://www.flickr.com/photos/markgell/4 ... 287172539/

and a "144 Grays Inn Road" seat-tube decal:

http://www.flickr.com/photos/markgell/4 ... 287172539/

So presumably Condor were using up old head badges after the move to 144.


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Thanks for the info Jim, I found it interesting at least.

Given the OP hasn't been seen since I doubt we'll be getting any more info on a potentially interesting frame.....


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John wrote:
Thanks for the info Jim, I found it interesting at least.

Given the OP hasn't been seen since I doubt we'll be getting any more info on a potentially interesting frame.....


Au contraire, almost on the first anniversary of the original post, it's back...

http://www.retrobike.co.uk/forum/viewto ... 779#901779


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PostPosted: Sun Jun 17, 2012 3:09 am 
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I wonder, did anybody here nab this one?

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/261041061013

Looks like a '94, to judge by the components.


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PostPosted: Sat Jun 23, 2012 11:57 pm 
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Greetings
I'm still here, alive, and ride my Condor or whatever it is often. It's quite light so am assuming a Prestige build. As indicated in my earlier post, there were three similar build new Condor? frames in the tiny German LBS where I purchased it. I now suspect you guy's are correct and they were in fact Taiwan built frames with Condor head badges and peel-off decals, as I recall the decals didn't last long. Thanks for the Condor information.
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Carl in Ocala


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