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PostPosted: Mon Mar 23, 2009 11:26 am 
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Hey this is pretty exciting this. Two birds with one stone,
I wanted an all year fast retro to clock up XC miles...
After weighing my two retro's; Raleigh and Muddy Fox frames I realised they are not far off 6lbs! sheesh, thats all very well but all my other bikes are heavy, I want a fun whippet (in my size) for getting fit and keeping up with retro bikers, something like my early Prestige that I sold in 1993...

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8) 8)

Explosive accelaration, springy, and was a joy to ride. Good times. Sold to fund lifestyle mainly but dabbled in BMX for fun and motorbike for commute, leaving MTBing for several years... :?

So Saturday, I picked this up from MrNero50, slightly impulsive, slightly premeditated!
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I see it as carrying on where I left (in 1993) best of both worlds.


Sweet, looks better than the pics.

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Weighs in well too, bout 4.5. Jeez I hope I don't break it! Wow

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BB was thought to be an issue possibly
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Seems OK not seen owt to worry about. Squirted Waxoyl and oil where I could and wire brushed the threads lightly. My available BB went in no prob. Ace

Being the impulsive person I am, i also got these:
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MX Comp ETA (2003) FSA Headset and 85mm Art stem
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Weighs more that the frame! and I'm worried about length, Dropout to crown is about 445mm.
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Along with weight and length, they don't go! would need painting silver at the minimum. So not sure what to do at all.

Options:
(1) Paint and run MXC's
(2) Been offered some serviced Pace RC36's on here for £££ but same length as MXC's
(3) Hold out for RC35's
(4) Hold out for nice rigids

I do like the idea of staying with the aheadset system but owt could happen.

I have asked for fork help in general section but no advice yet.


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PostPosted: Mon Mar 23, 2009 12:34 pm 
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If what you say about wanting to get lots of miles on this bike is true, then the best option is rigid.

The forks you have are too long, and so are the RC-36's. While achingly pretty, RC-35's are rubbish. If at all possible find some nice double butted steel forks with the correct length and get them painted to match.


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PostPosted: Mon Mar 23, 2009 12:53 pm 
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Thanks Tallpaul, good experience talk. 8)

I did a search on here about this this morning. I don't really have prob with rigid, specially useful for keeping weight low. I could lower the MXC's for special occasions, this if of course I get aheadset rigids! or sell and stick with rigid like the goold old days. back then my mate upgraded to Manitou i was a bit jealous! :D


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PostPosted: Mon Mar 23, 2009 1:08 pm 
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reanimation wrote:
back then my mate upgraded to Manitou i was a bit jealous! :D


No need to be. Again, very pretty but rubbish :lol:

I'm all in favour of fitting cool, rare, pretty stuff to the garage queen or bike that goes out on a ride or two in fine weather. But for anyone that's wanting to actually rack up some miles then it's gotta be functional (which you can have and still be retro).


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PostPosted: Mon Mar 23, 2009 1:15 pm 
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Yeah i need to agree there, as i was getting a bit precious about the Muddy Fox wanting to use summer only, for now, too many nice new bits and its is kinda historic. The Irony is its a cheaper bike and probably pretty tough!

Nah hitting the trails on a pre scuffed Orange is very appealing 8)

need to get looking for some rigids...


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PostPosted: Mon Mar 23, 2009 2:30 pm 
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Good call with the rigids, seems a shame to have such a nice, light springy frame only to add that much weight with the forks.

How about pace rigids, always look sweet on Oranges


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PostPosted: Mon Mar 23, 2009 2:35 pm 
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Neil G wrote:
Good call with the rigids, seems a shame to have such a nice, light springy frame only to add that much weight with the forks.

How about pace rigids, always look sweet on Oranges


Yeah, on my search list, doubt they would be cheap or easy to find, but looking... :)

I'd consider new forks but equally hard to find.


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PostPosted: Mon Mar 23, 2009 4:27 pm 
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If you are considering new, how about some of these:

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/eXotic-Rigid-Carb ... 240%3A1318

I've got a disc only set on my Kona singlespeed and they are great. Soften out some of the bumps. Are under 2lbs in weight and are 425mm length, so could be a good fit?

Essentially they are the same as the White Brothers Carbon Rigids, but direct from the manufacturer.

I think they also do some Alu ones that are a bit cheaper.


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PostPosted: Mon Mar 23, 2009 4:39 pm 
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Mark, i've got some Rock Shox Mag 21's you can have for karma if they'll do trick. They need a lick of paint but are mechanically sound, you'd just need a suitable steerer/crown (could even paint them if you ask really nicely). Those bomber are just too big for that frame.

Looks a great project, what you going to kit it out with?


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PostPosted: Mon Mar 23, 2009 5:25 pm 
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Oooh thats very kind of you Mark!
:o 8)
Be very cool for oldskoolness that would, and keep an eye out for some rigids maybe when they show up.

Buildwise, hmm, actually a few bits i got off you!

Frame: Orange Prestige

Fork: ??? light and short

Headset: ?
Stem: ?
Handlebar: Ritchey flattie 170gram in sexy silver
Grips: stock or summat funky and purple?
Barends: X Lite Ski in black
Brakes: Suntour SE Canti and V maybe at front...
Brake Pads: suntour and ?
Brake Cables: 'XT' prob
Cantilever cable hangers:
Brake Levers: ? hmm

Shifters:
Front Derailleur: probably something new
Rear Derailleur: Shimano XT SC same era
Derailleur Cables:
Cassette: 7speed 12-28
Chain: SRAM
Cranks: Middleburn maybe
Crank Bolts:
Chainrings: 2 rings...
Chainring bolts:
Bottom Bracket: unknown
Pedals: summat flat

Hub Skewers: ?
Rims: Mavic 317
Hubs: Deore LX Paralex
Nipples:
Spokes:
Tyres: WTB/Panaracer
Tubes:

Saddle: Scuffed Flite, and a posh one for pictures :P
Seatpost: stock. the 27.0 is as loose as Mr n said it would be so 27.2 to try
Seatpost Binder: dunno

Weight: light

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