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PostPosted: Sun Mar 18, 2018 6:54 pm 
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Location: North Yorkshire
I finally got round to putting together a restoration thread for my old Caygill.
My plan is to restore the bike to the original spec. Where I can, I'll use the original parts, where parts have been lost, I am going to try and replace with NOS parts. There's the odd bit I haven't decided what to do with yet (headset mainly), and I'm going to allow myself a little bit of leeway with some parts that I'd fitted along the way, which might still make it into the build.
It's not a firm deadline because I see enough of those at work, but I'd like to get it all together for a ride to the pub on some suitably period trails on my birthday in June (This year!)


The Bike
I got the bike in 1994 as a replacement for a 1992 Saracen Kili Pro that was stolen from my parents garage (part and parcel of living in Middlesbrough). Rather than being built for me, I think it was built for display or a show, it was hanging in the shop when we went in with the insurance cheque. I was told at the time that it was originally built with Marzocchi forks and they'd been removed for something else, hence the P2 fork.

Here's some pictures of it on the day I got it.
Image20171130075420221_0001 by Stocktonator, on Flickr
Image20171130075321840_0001 by Stocktonator, on Flickr
Image20171130075241991_0001 by Stocktonator, on Flickr

Here's the specification of the bike at the time:
Frame: Arthur Caygill Custom, Reynolds 653 Tubeset. Frame number 380
Fork: Kona Project 2 triple butted
Bars: Ultimate Sports Engineering (USE)
Stem: Kalloy, later replaced with a Caygill custom stem
Grips: ODI Attack
Bar Ends: Zoom Ned Overend L Bend
Saddle: Selle Italia Flite Titanium
Seatpost: Ultimate Sports Engineering (USE)
Tyres: Panaracer Dart 2.1" (Front), Panaracer Smoke Lite 1.0" (Rear)
Rims: Mavic M231CD, 36 Hole
Spokes: DT Swiss Double Butted
Hubs: Shimano XTR (HB-M900 Front / FH-M900 Rear), 36 Hole
Headset: Shimano XTR (HP-M900), 1", Threaded
Bottom Bracket: Shimano XTR (BB-UN90)
Chainset: Shimano XTR (FC-M900), 170mm cranks, 26/36/46T
Cassette: Shimano XTR (CS-M900), 12-32T
Chain: Shimano XTR/Dura-Ace (CN-7401)
Rear Derailleur: Shimano XTR (RD-M900), Long Cage
Front Derailleur: Shimano XTR (FD-M900), 28.6mm, Top Pull, Top Swing
Shifters: Shimano XTR STI (ST-M900)
Brakes: Shimano XTR (BR-M900)
Cables: Shimano XTR (Unknown Part Number, but they were thicker than "normal")

Over the years, bits wore out or got broken and were replaced. The top tube developed a crack and was replaced. It's had three resprays. Here's how it stands at the moment:
ImagePhoto 02-12-2017, 12 51 48 by Stocktonator, on Flickr

I've been trying to track down the original colours. Unfortunately Caygill's don't have a record of them, but they've been very helpful with advice and sorting me out with some M900 goodness and a copy of the original build sheet (great to see that they've kept this after so many years!):
ImagePhoto 02-12-2017, 14 35 18 by Stocktonator, on Flickr

Caygill's subcontracted their paintwork out back then, but I don't know who did it, and it feels cheeky asking them now they do their own. They were suggesting that they were RAL colours, and the pink looks like RAL Telemagenta 4010, but I can't find a purple RAL that looks close and is available in metallic. I'd reached a bit of an impasse with it, but I called Argos, they've suggested a non-RAL purple and are going to paint some samples for me, so they're getting the work, unlike Bob Jackson, who were dicks about it frankly.

So, my job for this week is to strip the bike down, get it boxed up and sent over to Argos so they can get started with the samples.

I'll update this post as I go on.

Cheers for looking,

Neilios


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PostPosted: Tue Mar 20, 2018 8:47 am 
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Wow it was super cool in that original paint, looking forward to seeing this one progress. Good luck with it!


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PostPosted: Tue Mar 20, 2018 10:16 am 
Old School Hero

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Thanks Shogun. I'm going to try and make a start on it today.


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PostPosted: Sat Mar 24, 2018 8:37 pm 
Old School Hero

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Bit of an update on progress.

I stripped the bike down:

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While I was on, I realised that the stem is bent, so I took it across to Caygill's to see if they could repair it. The consensus was that it was probably more trouble that it was worth, so they're modifying a NOS Zoom stem for me to include a cable stop. While it's not the original stem, at least it's period correct and is the right length and rise for the build.

I also seem to have acquired some "primary evidence" of the original colour sheme :facepalm: :oops: Another forum user tipped me off about a Caygill in the right colours on eBay, I did a deal and picked it up today. This should allow me to get a good match on the colours, but has the potential to end in another project in its own right!

Image[url=https://flic.kr/p/25sko6K]Image[url=https://flic.kr/p/24nEKZs]Image[url=https://flic.kr/p/25skngZ]Image[url=https://flic.kr/p/25skngZ]

I'm still undecided as to who to get to paint it. Argos are in the frame, but I can't stop wondering about getting Fat Creations to do it for me - longer lead time and more spendy but I think the end result might be worth it...


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PostPosted: Sat Mar 24, 2018 8:46 pm 
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I always like to see a nice caygill :) the original colours are very nice, but the red it is now isn't bad at all either!


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PostPosted: Sat Mar 24, 2018 9:16 pm 
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Thanks Foz! Just had a look at yours, very nice!

I think the original is a bit of an acquired taste, but my best memories of the bike were when it had that paint job. The red is a nice colour mind :)


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PostPosted: Sat Mar 24, 2018 9:23 pm 
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Love the paint on the bottom frame, very klein like.


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PostPosted: Sun Mar 25, 2018 1:11 am 
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Linear fades: Not just for common yank pop can bikes :lol:

Brilliant. Is the road frame a lo-pro?


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PostPosted: Sun Mar 25, 2018 9:32 am 
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I have literally no idea about road bikes Shogun, all I know is that this one is looking at me funny and saying "build me, I'd look great in the beer garden"


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PostPosted: Thu Mar 29, 2018 8:46 pm 
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The original build and the road frame both have stunning paint jobs. I look forward to seeing your rebuild on it.

It’s a shame that the Reynolds special botm came too early for this to be entered, it would have been a real contender!


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