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PostPosted: Wed Sep 13, 2006 4:17 pm 
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Marin Ti, any pics?


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You scared me a little with the toyo story.......but i guess they deliver good quality? How can i be certain?


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You scared me a little with the toyo story.......but i guess they deliver good quality? How can i be certain?



No worries, either way it is okay :D
Is there a decal on the seattube just above the bottom bracket, and does it say: made by Tom Ritchey or design by Tom Ritchey?


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GOD DAMN that's a fine looking bike! Don't worry about Toyo. In real terms it's like finding out your Porsche factory has closed down and they secretly out-sorced the continuing work to Rolls Royce!


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MarinTi wrote:
No worries, either way it is okay :D
Is there a decal on the seattube just above the bottom bracket, and does it say: made by Tom Ritchey or design by Tom Ritchey?


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GOD DAMN that's a fine looking bike! Don't worry about Toyo. In real terms it's like finding out your Porsche factory has closed down and they secretly out-sorced the continuing work to Rolls Royce!


That's a relief :P

For detail shots : http://www.pinkbike.com/photo/?op=list&function=myphotos&photouserid=94109


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plexus wrote:
You scared me a little with the toyo story.......but i guess they deliver good quality? How can i be certain?


By seeing it when you view the neat welds and great detailling ...and by experiencing it when you get the smile on your face when riding it :wink:

Japanese are very into detailling. With great frames a lot is about detailling. I think it is also in Japanese nature they can be very serious and committed in what they are doing.

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Fillet brazed, Toyo made. Sweet, isn't it?


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Like I said on the dutch forum. I really like that bike.
This is indeed a classic. I would like to see that one in real.


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the japanese always strive for perfection in everything they do

it is practically an obsession with them

while training in the martial arts , i asked the instructor what the reason for the white bands were for on the black belt , which you recieve for passing the next level , the same as a different colour belt

the reply was .... when you pass your black , it takes another 2 years for the first band then another 2 , and so on

the highest you reach is 10

so by the time you get to 10th dan , would be about 20 years

and in this time your belt would practically be returned to white

the colour of the beginner , and the reason for this was .............

to remind you that in the 20 years since passing your black ,

there MUST be something that you have forgotten

making you start your training , ALL OVER AGAIN



PERFECTION !!!!


8) or what


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Arse :evil:
My P20 is designed by Tom :(
Unlike the Plexus which is Ritchey WCS tubing, mine is Dedacci(spelling??)

However i still love it and it doesn't change a thing :lol:
I'll ride it til one of us dies :lol:


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So i can take the conclusion that my plexus is a real Tom made frame? 8)
Or did he allso send the "i made it myself" decals to toyo.... :roll:


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