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 Post subject: 1993 Marin Team Issue
PostPosted: Wed Aug 27, 2014 11:07 am 
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Greetings all...

Been on here a while reminiscing about the good old days and thought it was about time I put a build thread up on my project.

I was originally on the look out for a 93 Indian Fire Trail as that is what I was racing on way back when. Still got it in the rood of the workshop, but as a 20.5 inch frame was always too big for me, so was looking for the same but smaller. I still have the large IFT, so may build that along the way too.

A few months ago this beauty of a frame came up, although possibly a little small as I'm 5 11.
I always liked the way the smaller frames looked and as it wont be ridden that much, not too much of an issue. Plus these old Marin's were quite stretched out. Many thanks to guerlain61 for the sale. Frame is in amazing condition, but will benefit from new decals; any ideas?

For the forks, I was lucky enough to be given these. I work in the cycle industry as a sales manager for a distribution company, and while visiting one of my accounts noticed these in the corner of a workshop. When I enquired about them, a customer had dropped them in ages ago as he had no more use for them.

Another luck out as I was given a front Hope Ti hub in purple laced onto a Mavic 521, but finding a rear proved to be an impossibility. So other options were looked at.
That lead to these wheels, which arrived today courtesy of vinnya77 (cheers bud).
Test fitted this morning a look spot on as they even came with Panaracer Smoke Lite tyres.

The rest of the parts fitted are either items I had knocking around in the parts bin; some will stay/ some will go; see spec list below.
As you see, I want to go for fairly period accurate items, but don't want to dwell too much on originality. I'd rather go for components that in my mind work. Looking at an original spec for these bikes, there is definitely parts that I would have changed back in the day.

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Here's the envisaged spec list

Frame: Marin Team Issue 1993 15” (small)

Fork: Pace RC35 MXC

Headset: Cane Creek AER
Stem: Azonic ors (possibly looking at other options)
Handlebar: Marin Lite
Grips: System EX (probably going to be Ritchey WCS foam)
Barends: none

Brakes: XTR M900 (to source)
Brake Pads: XTR m900 (to source)
Brake Cables: Shimano
Cantilever cable hangers:
Brake Levers: XTR M900 (to source)

Shifters: XTR M900 (to source)
Front Derailleur: XTR M900 28.6 b/pull (to source)
Rear Derailleur: XTR M900 (currently XT)
Derailleur Cables: Shimano
Cassette: Shimano
Chain: SRAM
Cranks: XTR M900 (to source)
Crank Bolts:
Chainrings: XTR M900 (to source)
Chainring bolts:
Bottom Bracket: Shimano
Pedals: tbc

Hub Skewers: Odyssey Svelte (to swap for something purple!)
Rims: Avenir Duro 17
Hubs: Pace RC50 front / Hope Ti Glide Purple rear
Nipples: Alloy Purple
Spokes: DT double butted
Tyres: Panaracer Smoke Lite 1.9
Tubes: yes

Saddle: Flite Titanium (To source better condition Black version)
Seatpost: System EX (don't worry, on hunt for something retro/purple in 26.4)
Seatpost Binder: Marin

Weight: TBC

All comments welcome, either positive or negative, I wont be offended.

thanks
Chris


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PostPosted: Wed Aug 27, 2014 1:09 pm 
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Good work !

I'm currently undertaking an epic resto of a 92 Team Issue , you can read about it in the thread below.

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Love the old Marins !


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PostPosted: Wed Aug 27, 2014 7:07 pm 
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Are you going canti or V brakes? Nowt wrong with m900 that deserves to be on there. 8)

**edit** just read spec list :oops:

I have a full m900 groupset that was on my Team Issue pm me if interested.


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PostPosted: Wed Aug 27, 2014 8:04 pm 
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Nice example. The tubing is just the best! springy steel.

Yes, the best(please, no smart arses to dispute that).

That's the funny thing with these old bikes, looking at the headtube I could ride that with the post high enough, i'm 6' 2".
Us lanky dudes need a gate of a frame to fully appreciate a frames' riding characteristics. innit pops :wink:

The skinny steel tubes look the part. Old aluminium sometimes feels dead and stiff to me. So you are better off with the issue!

cheers.


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PostPosted: Wed Aug 27, 2014 8:31 pm 
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Nice build


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PostPosted: Thu Aug 28, 2014 8:32 pm 
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Thanks for the comments guys.

Although it's a long term project I'm really tempted to put some old parts on it to get it up and running. Not sure if that will prolong getting it built up properly though.


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PostPosted: Sat Aug 30, 2014 1:49 pm 
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As the sun was shinning I got out on my modern bike today. When I got back seemed like a good opportunity to get them both out together.

Interesting to see how bikes have progressed in 20 years !

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Oh, and have temporarily fitted some M950 XTR cranks for the time being..


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PostPosted: Sun Aug 31, 2014 7:24 pm 
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Well, I just couldn't help myself.

With cranks fitted, rear mech locked off, chain slung on and temporary rear brake slung on I took the old girl for a blast.

Felt really stretched out compared to my modern rides, even as a 15" frame, may look out for something a bit smaller to bring the bars further in. The frame felt nice and tight, the forks could do with some new elastomers but within a few minutes felt confident enough to give her some beans. Handled really well, shame the brake wasn't as willing !

Managed to get some snaps as it was such a nice afternoon.

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PostPosted: Mon Sep 01, 2014 5:57 pm 
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Like the bike not sure on the new one tho,,,


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PostPosted: Fri Nov 07, 2014 11:53 pm 
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Some more progress, but in the wrong direction !! Taking items off rather than adding.

I have some new decals on the way courtesy of Gil at Retrodecals.

In preparation I have stripped the old ones off.

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However, the frame came to me with a mixture of original, aftermarket and missing decals.

Is anyone able to help and provide some high res images of original bikes?

Especially where the 'AFTERBURNERS' and 'DOUBLE BUTTED STAYS' decals should go. I'm pretty sure the first one sits on the seat stays below the brake bosses.

Anyones help would be much appreciated on this one.

In regard to how the build spec is going, hopefully picking M900 chainset, rear mech, STI's next week.
Still on the hunt for some M900 Canti's :wink:
Also picking up a black Flite next week.
Ritchey WCS copies are also on their way.
Oh, and you may notice a M900 front mech now fitted.
Still on the hunt for a suitable seatpost. A 26.4 appears to be a hard size to find. The wanted section has provided no resolve.

I'll be doing a fill strip down and build from the frame/forks up when the majority of components are here.

I'm definitely looking forward to removing the mismatch of parts.

Hope you like
Chris


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