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PostPosted: Mon Feb 18, 2008 2:35 pm 
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And 22lbs with front sus , thats good going.


22lbs and 22" that's the more amazing bit! :lol:

good idea re spraying maguras too - cheers.

still want to know what I have though...


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it's funny coz this one says Muddy Fox Titam Pro (although decals aren't original) and this appears to be the same as my frame:

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The article does say it's a prototype. Perhaps once the bean counters got involved, some alterations were made to the marketed version?


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always possible, but would the changes be that radical?


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orange71 wrote:
always possible, but would the changes be that radical?


Who knows? Perhaps this is a fairly generic Ti frame that Boris was able to knock up for less. I guess not having the wishbone seatstay would say a few quid.

I agree it's all a bit odd though, the design in the article is comparable to the design of the steel Fox's (the one that looked like it shared a frame with early Orange Clockworks).


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I put out some feelers on the french equivalent of retrobike and got this reply:

Il y a un air de famille, non !

Il m'a été vendu comme un Voodoo D'Jab de 96, par Neway à Choisy (94).
A cette époque ils distribuaient Voodoo mais aussi Muddy Fox.
Quand ils ont fermé le bouclard, je me suis rabattus chez PSL à Virry Chatillion qui faisait Voodoo.
Ils ont entretenu le VTT jusqu’en 2003 et n'ont jamais remis en doute sa provenance.
L'année dernière, un même cadre c'est vendu sur Ebay US, il était badgé exactement comme le mien, ce qui me laisse penser que s'en était sûrement un !


which translates as: there's a real family resemblance! It was sold to me as a Voodoo D'Joab from '96 by Neway in Choisy. At that time they were distributers for Voodoo but also Muddy Fox. When they closed down the chain, I went to PSL at Virry Chatillon who sold Voodoo's. They looked after the MTB until 2003 and never brought into doubt its prevenance. Last year the same frame was up on US ebay, badged up just like mine which makes me think it definitely was one.

So perhaps we have a solution?!
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orange71 wrote:
So perhaps we have a solution?! :D


could be - the externally butted headtube, hole in teh rear drop outs and forward facing seatclamp match.


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Oddly that doesn't look like a Voodoo to me as it doesn't have the signature Joe Murray highly sloping top tube and seat tube extension?

http://forum.velovert.com/index.php?automodule=gallery&cmd=viewimage&img=7381

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http://images.jonrolex.multiply.com/image/37/photos/2/400x400/3.jpg/%2798voodooDJAB.jpg?et=k7TVyt0elfdTrOYNFwiUDA&nmid=7490630

A quick google found these. Far from conclusive as these all look totally different again but they all look more like a Voodoo to me.


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dropouts are different on that first link too... :?

plot thickens...


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PostPosted: Thu Feb 21, 2008 2:30 am 
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I also bought one of these 'Titan Pro' frames a couple of weeks back - 20.5".
I found these (unfortunately large) photos of a voodoo d'jab from Craigslist and I can't tell the difference. Geometry (Joe murray)
should perhaps be different, but with large sizes like these...?.. The headtube butting and canti bridges are identical - as are the welds.. ;-)
Bit of help please OP: What size seatpost do I need and will 410mm forks be ok? I was considering 395mm and just want to know how it
handles and how long those amps are.. Thanks, P
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