orange are more custom now than ever i think, back in the day you bought an orange by choosing the frame and then the groupset that matched the size of your wallet, it was a good way to do it back then and as you guys said you got a full dx group or whatever. and don't forget, they were in the good old days doing rigid or hardtails only,now we have full suss aswell, also in the early days they didn't have a paint shop.
but i like the system they have now, a 5 can be had in 4 colours as standard or a non standard colour from another model for a small charge and then you can choose decals aswell, very individual. there are 4 standard specs/prices with so many upgrade options depending on your riding style/parts preference/wallet thickness that they're too many to mention. that's choice, and i love choice!
today i sold a patriot freeride with a shock upgrade and custom colour and graphics, then off the back of that i sold again patriot freeride with custom colour, shock upgrade, upgrade to maxle rear end, hope performance pack, tyre change, also a 5 all mountain with a bunch of changes from the factory. (boss took me for a drink, bloody good day!

especially as we're down in the flattest part of the known galaxy!

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orange want us dealers to concentrate on selling the differences and upgrade packages and paint changes because it is something they can offer that alot of other bigger brands can't offer and this can give a buyer a full on custom feel knowing that a frame is being painted and built to what they want just for them.
having said that i would love to see nice stalk lite stems again, obviousley modern ahead for the new stuff etc, that would be cool, their standard posts/stems/bars are ok but nice matching stems etc were cool bitd and i think it would be cool to have stuff like that again.
anyway i'll pass on your comments tommorrow when i see them, they always like to know what people think, good or bad, if it wasn't for conversations like this they wouldn't have done the new clockwork or prestige, they were talked into it by dealers! and before i hear all the cries and shouts, i know not all of you like the new versions and yes i do understand why, each to his own and all that!
good night gents!
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