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PostPosted: Sun Oct 18, 2020 6:03 pm 
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How can you tell that is an original splash hub?


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PostPosted: Sun Oct 18, 2020 6:08 pm 
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Seller is experienced :shock: , he also has many other too much valueble pieces.

I just purchased to him also the NOS Tioga DDR (see attcahed pic) and I paid so well, my lady 8)

Now Im'm sad, Magne (the one who sells the beauties Attitude's here and there on ebay) is not responding me to my Whatsapp, he didnt get my calls :cry:


PD: I'm Alejandro Martin


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PostPosted: Fri Oct 23, 2020 11:10 am 
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Today received, original NOS Tinker Juarez 1992 shifters.

The Campagnolo ones (I like better Italia than Japan sorry, jiji, I'm from EU)

By looking at 1992 catalogue, see attached pic, the shifters of the Campagnolo Record OR brand (OR = O.R. = Off Road) where branded as "Icarus"


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PostPosted: Fri Oct 23, 2020 11:25 am 
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Here you can see in its full glory, weight only 142 gr !! lighter than what I previously expected (157 gr).

I updated my total estimated weight of Alejandro's Adroit Gator 1992 in first page topic

PD: I expect for today receive the Adroit Gator 1992 Size 19" lovely frameset.
I will post


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PostPosted: Fri Oct 23, 2020 12:05 pm 
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Que bueno amigo!
esta bicicleta será la Puta madre!


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PostPosted: Fri Oct 23, 2020 12:42 pm 
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The Campagnolo ones (I like better Italia than Japan sorry, jiji, I'm from EU) -- So why the Shimano parts?

I'm sure weight could be saved here:
0.027 gr --- Crank fixing bolts: Shimano** -- Use SRP alloy or titanium
0.207 gr --- Cassette: Shimano XTR CS M950 (11-30)** -- Use titanium cassette: Tioga/Action Tec/Boone or aluminium: Real
0.317 gr --- Chain: Shimano IG70 (106)** -- Use full titanium chain.

It will be uber light but modern parts will ruin the looks (in my opinion). :(

So glad you bought the DDP, it was killing me seeing it every day. :)


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PostPosted: Fri Oct 23, 2020 12:51 pm 
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Magpiegifts wrote:
That's one sweet looking Klein.

Love Klein's,the durethane paint is to die for!

I only have one Klein left now, later type, miss my old school attitude!!!


Im jealous,you appear to have $$$ to be able to buy whatever you please, means that this builds has the potential to be awesome.
Will be watching with interest.

Good job my friend. Well done


My thoughts too - unlimited budget and a goal in mind - this is what makes it all the more interesting and enjoyable

I’m not keen on the look to be honest - as it’s subjective - but no doubt this will be a killer machine


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PostPosted: Fri Oct 23, 2020 12:57 pm 
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Hotwheels. wrote:
The Campagnolo ones (I like better Italia than Japan sorry, jiji, I'm from EU) -- So why the Shimano parts?


Seems lighter than Italians, altought not sure at all

Hotwheels. wrote:
I'm sure weight could be saved here:
0.027 gr --- Crank fixing bolts: Shimano** -- Use SRP alloy or titanium


Probably same weight. If you can provide a link or better a purchase link or ebay or other web betterso this way I will buy and compare

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0.207 gr --- Cassette: Shimano XTR CS M950 (11-30)** -- Use titanium cassette: Tioga/Action Tec/Boone or aluminium: Real


Acording to *1)Weights even more or around the same:
*1)Tioga Titanium Cassete 228 gr https://weightweenies.starbike.com/foru ... hp?t=24168
2*) Action Tec is 240 gr https://weightweenies.starbike.com/list ... =cassettes

Hotwheels. wrote:
0.317 gr --- Chain: Shimano IG70 (106)** -- Use full titanium chain.

I must check, can you help me with weight numbers, for a valid and proper MTB chain

Hotwheels. wrote:
It will be uber light but modern parts will ruin the looks (in my opinion). :(
But going for the best of the best, I think a mix (hybrid) is the best, so having the retro components, with lighest setup


Hotwheels. wrote:
So glad you bought the DDP, it was killing me seeing it every day. :)


A upcoming used DD (no NOS, used) I'm fighting for me to be able to get as well


PD: I love the tinker shifters, but I must confess that they are super hard to use / move the dials


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PostPosted: Fri Oct 23, 2020 1:12 pm 
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The shifters you have are Campagnolo but a completely different model to what Tinker has in the photo. His are not low profile and have a lot more components to them.
These are what Tinker is using, I had some on my bike too in the '90's: https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Campagnolo-E ... SwNgZfWim-

207g Ti chain here: https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/YBN-11sp-6-4 ... SwRylffZN7


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PostPosted: Fri Oct 23, 2020 1:20 pm 
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Great project and great thread. 8)


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