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PostPosted: Fri Oct 19, 2018 11:14 pm 
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Altitude Cycles mentioned here and also the German 1996 catalogue. In the Hot thread above i also found reference to a HT121.


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PostPosted: Sat Oct 20, 2018 10:13 am 
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Curiouser and curiouser;

If I'm keeping up with all this, we have now seen four examples of 1996 Stars 'n' Bars Hot frames with an HT prefix that precede the H096MM### format:
HT121
HT123
HT0192
HT209
.... And it's interesting to note that at least two of them appear to have Dropouts that precede the Goathead design, which was later replicated, and called New Drop.

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PostPosted: Sat Oct 20, 2018 10:28 am 
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it get's better and better everytime I enter this thread 8)


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PostPosted: Sat Oct 20, 2018 6:51 pm 
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I think I've found another one as well...

These Altitude Hots are soooo passe.


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PostPosted: Mon Oct 22, 2018 10:03 am 
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Indeed, this is getting ridiculous. You can add, not 1, but 2 to the Altitude Hot pile. I've contacted both owners for the SNs, the latter (frame only) I'm 100% certain is Altitude, the other I'm a little less certain but that's just down to the quality of the pictures and lack of detail. And both in red, the first time I've seen them in that single colour.

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I've managed to finally secure the right cassette thanks to this post: viewtopic.php?f=78&t=390591

That leaves the easy stuff: CK headset, grips, saddle, cables and pedals. I'm aiming for a November build...

And in slightly related news...I saw another 97 Kilauea SE :shock: :shock: :shock:


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PostPosted: Mon Oct 22, 2018 11:42 am 
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W :shock: W

Thank you for the information Al - crikey, I must say how much this all helps to keep the site interesting.

As you say (without a serial number) the frame only example appears to be an Altitude build, with investment cast dropouts. It has that same deep sheen to the paint and looks an identical colour and finish to my 1996 Ku.

Awaiting the serial numbers with anticipation.

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PostPosted: Mon Oct 22, 2018 3:30 pm 
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8) really nice Hot - interesting mono colour scheme - confusing what Kona was doing that year :shock:

beside that; have you noticed that the front cable stop on the toptube looks to be in a lower position then the rear cable stop - or is it the angle of the pic.:?:


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PostPosted: Mon Oct 22, 2018 5:02 pm 
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magas wrote:
.... beside that; have you noticed that the front cable stop on the toptube looks to be in a lower position then the rear cable stop - or is it the angle of the pic.:?:


I think you are correct Martin. My 1996 Ku has the same difference of alignment between the front and rear cable stops.

I don't have any pictures that demonstrate it very well, but you can probably see that the front is lower than the rear.

ImageKona Ku 280814_3 by Philip Mock, on Flickr

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Image. by Philip Mock, on Flickr

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PostPosted: Mon Oct 22, 2018 10:09 pm 
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The picture Al posted above of the Kona Hot in the wild is mine, SN#HTO111.


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PostPosted: Tue Oct 23, 2018 12:25 am 
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Could the two hots be the same frame? and is the red a match for the red used on the stars and bars? i assume the stars and bars rear paint is on top of the red paint? maybe they painted a few frames up in the single red and then had some painted up in the stars and bars, maybe intending to get the rest done if there was the demand?

Great finds and pics regardless 8)

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