Dr S wrote:
The northern region on Rekiborter's map is a problem too- a member in Berwick upon Tweed will be a 460 mile round trip away from Chester in the bottom corner of the same area.
That's the same with the original map too surely? I still think the three northern English regions make no sense logistically. It would make far more sense to split region 3 between regions 4 & 5.
Looking down on a map I can completely see your point, but getting from area 3 to areas 4 and 5 are not as easy as mere map inches would suggest- take a look at the UK's road and in particularly its Motorway network.
Reki's map had one large area taking in Northumberland across to Cumbria then down through Lancs to Cheshire. Thats areas 3 and 4 of my proposed map combined. Its a huge area to cover. The top half of 3 (Cumbria) could be added to 4 (North East) but there is the countries physical attributes to be taken into account, the Penines split the north in half as i'm sure you are aware- Carlisle and the Lakes can be a 2 hour run from even the southern parts of the North East due to the lack of money that gets spent on road infrastructure up here, the A69 is the only route accross and is slow and has heavy traffic.
Also travelling from the end of Cornwall into Wessex and the Bristol and Bath areas are a pain and can take lots of time, hence a separate Devon and Cornwall group
Likewise the separation of Yorks and the NW group was brought about by the Penines, its slow going getting over them via the busy passes or the dreaded M62.
I do a lot of driving around the country and taking journey times into consideration was one of the many things I considered when making my proposals. Personally I'm easy- I don't mind driving so am happy with whatever form the areas take. I'm just trying to help.
There has been plenty of debate regarding the Northern areas, how down the Southern folk feel about the proposals? Its been pretty quiet.
I'm not trying to say my way is best- far from it, its just I have given this much though over the last month and have looked towards established clubs in the classic car and rallying world to see how they have divvy'd up the nation. These clubs have operated like this for years and will have been through this painful birth at some point and ended up with a practical solution.
Please keep your suggestions coming, have a go at doing maps, post them up and next week we can take a vote and get this nailed down.