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PostPosted: Tue Jul 24, 2012 6:18 pm 
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The Retrobike National Event Series 2012
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The clan MacRetro is proud to present...

Round 5: Tweed Valley - Innerleithen

:: Date: Saturday 18th of August 2012
:: Time: 9.30am for a 10am start
:: Distance: 21 miles, 5 - 6 hours riding
:: Meeting at: Innerleithen car park Postcode: EH44 6PW ~ Grid Ref: NT336357
:: Directions: Innerleithen is the nearest town/village. At Innerleithen, turn off the A72 and take the B709 for Traquair. Once you've crossed the bridge, the car park entrance is another 50 metres on the left. Parking is £3 for the day - we accept English £1 coins.

:: NO HELMET, NO RIDE

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:: Terrain: Rocky red-graded trail centre singletrack and forestry double track. Once we're up into the hills, the majority of riding is a variety of terrain not dissimilar to the highlands - everything from hard pack and stony old drovers path, to more natural walkers paths and grassy hillsides ranging from firm, muddy and all the way to occasionally boggy. There will be cow pats to avoid and a few water bars to bunny-hop.

:: What you need to bring:
1. The clan is recommending front suspension and big fat tyres if possible - keep in mind that we are hard, leathery mountain men not afraid to wear itchy cable knit jumpers, and some of us have even attempted growing a beard - so we know all about tough. That's not to say you can't ride it rigid (bring proof of Scottish ancestry on the day), but we reckon it will make the ride a bit easier, and you will enjoy the descents more (and the Innerleithen red) with a bit of bounce.
2. Bring a packed lunch, because in true penny pinching Scots style, we WILL NOT be stopping at a cafe. Seriously though, we are heading out into the hills, with our mid-point lunch stop being a hill-top several miles from civilisation. Bring food. This is mountain biking, not some jaunt down to the bistro for cafe Americano and pain au chocolat.

:: Route: Click on image below for MapMyRide route.

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We begin and end the ride on Innerleithen's red graded trail centre singletrack. The initial climb towards Minch Moor is full on from the get go and steep. It's a mix of path, double track and singletrack with rocky step ups and roots on the way - mincers can avoid this by staying on the double track. We leave the trail centre track before the Minch Moor summit (don't worry, we'll be back later) exiting Traquair Forest after a short but sweet bit of singletrack leading to the 'Point of Resolution'.

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From there we join the Southern Upland Way for a challenging natural ride across the gently rolling hills of the Scottish Borders, heading towards our lunch stop at the 3 Brethren. Under tyre expect the hard pack of an old drovers path, bumpy and rocky descents (and smiles), grassy hillsides, dirt, mud and you wouldn't be north of the border without an occasional bog to skirt.

Fed and watered (once again, remember that packed lunch ladies), we'll make our way back, going down the previous ups and vice versa until we arrive again at the Innerleithen red trail. From there it's a short climb up to the highest point of the ride - Minch Moor itself (567m).

After stopping to draw breath and admire the views once more, we'll begin the final 1300 foot descent on almost 5 and half miles of the finest border's singletrack (including the inevitable forestry double track). Expect swoopy, gravelly and bermy near the top, with quite a few rocky jumps (you'll see them coming, one or two are quite large but there is always a chicken run to the side), plus several rock gardens to navigate. There's a mix of double track, then singletrack and double track again as we make our way downwards, finishing with the Caddon Bank descent. This begins with several large drop offs (again, there are chicken runs, but these require a degree of concentration, especially the last one which is quite steep), and then you are onto a heady mix of berms, huge looping rollers, table tops, more drop offs and tight bends. Just be aware, this final section is technical, fast and geared towards modern bikes (and riders) - we don't want to end the day with any injuries.

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:: Accomodation:
Pods at Glentress.
Borders Tourist Site.
7 Stanes site.
Borders Accomodation Site.

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Yon daft Olympics will be over so no excuses. Bring yir bikes and leave yir southern shandies at the border - you're drinking Sweetheart Stout now.

Sign up noo!


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PostPosted: Tue Jul 24, 2012 6:48 pm 
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to scared to come, i wish hadrian had built that wall taller :lol:


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8) see you there


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SweetHeart Stout for allcomers, a proper soft drink.......well softish :lol:


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I will hopefully be coming, and no suspension and skinny tyres for me... don't have any others!!


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Measure how much clearance in your forks there is. If there is enough room for say a 2.2 or more I'm sure someone in MacRetro can lend you something. I got a pinch flat on my rigid bikes front wheel on one of the descents on our recon ride due to the rough stoney ground. Seriously a fatter front tyre with not too much PSI and any other suspension you can muster would lead to a a more enjoyable riding experience. It can be ridden rigid but your hands/wrists/arms/shoulders etc will suffer from a lot of trail feedback, its pretty rocky throughout this ride :wink:


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velomaniac wrote:
Measure how much clearance in your forks there is. If there is enough room for say a 2.2 or more I'm sure someone in MacRetro can lend you something. I got a pinch flat on my rigid bikes front wheel on one of the descents on our recon ride due to the rough stoney ground. Seriously a fatter front tyre with not too much PSI and any other suspension you can muster would lead to a a more enjoyable riding experience. It can be ridden rigid but your hands/wrists/arms/shoulders etc will suffer from a lot of trail feedback, its pretty rocky throughout this ride :wink:


And this is coming from a man who has ridden the red route at Glentress on a skinny tyred tourer, so if he says it's bumpy, it's bumpy. :lol:


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velomaniac wrote:
Seriously a fatter front tyre with not too much PSI


Think I will run my 4.7" at 12psi rather than 15psi then :lol:


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firedfromthecircus wrote:
And this is coming from a man who has ridden the red route at Glentress on a skinny tyred tourer, so if he says it's bumpy, it's bumpy. :lol:


Pah! I come from Viking ancestry so I'll be riding it fully rigid.


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drystonepaul wrote:
firedfromthecircus wrote:
And this is coming from a man who has ridden the red route at Glentress on a skinny tyred tourer, so if he says it's bumpy, it's bumpy. :lol:


Pah! I come from Viking ancestry so I'll be riding it fully rigid.


This from the man who required suspension and Vs for Delamere Forest...? I'm sure one of those roots reared up at least three inches! :P :twisted:

We're hoping to spend a few days in the tent again this year - is there a preferred campsite? Stayed somewhere with a castle/bar in the middle of the campsite a few years back, really like to stay there again if that makes sense for everybody?

Excited already! :D

And I feel like I'm being goaded into riding rigid... :roll:


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