Sure you put forward the case for Clelland well enough
I' am never shy in extolling the virtues of the Cleland. But now, thanks to Jeremy, I have a better understanding of why they weigh so much. Solid fork crowns, stay bridges and indestructible steerer tubes. etc. It's a good job they used a bit of 531 here and there to offset the weight of the solid bits.
Joe Breeze checked over the Cleland with the curiosity of an English plumber inspecting a French central heating system. He recognised the Deore XT bits, but had never seen many of the components before, and even the Woods' valves looked strange on a mountain bike. I explained why its French moped hub brakes did not overheat and melt the bearing grease, and that they use a floating cams to self-centre the brake shoes just like hydraulic disk brakes do. There was however one frame design detail that Joe was so impressed by that he talked of incorporating it into his 2011 Breezers. Though due to reasons of commercial confidentiality I won't discuss the details here.
I must say that Joe's latest bikes look suburb. Unlike the Cleland they are a masterclass in lightweight tube engineering. I especially liked the lines and detail of the aluminium framed bike, and the Schwinn inspired paintwork is a wonderful reference back to the origins of the sport.