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Author:  bikenut2010 [ Thu Sep 26, 2013 4:19 pm ]
Post subject:  Colnago / Colner?

I moved this over from LFGSS before resorting to a part out :oops:

Possible Colnago ( see bb and forks ) that someone tried to 'customise' the lug details...fail.
OK good points:
Frame is light, 27.2 seat post and remnants of a Columbus decal so assuming SL, forks have decent chrome crown with Colnago cut-outs and long tangs, 2 holes.
The build is top notch Super Record or Nuovo Record including Colnago engraved cranks with the exception of ( very elegant ) Galli brakes.
The wheels are in superb shape, excellent Campy Record hubs, Nisi rims, Clement / Wolber tubs which are good and hold pressure.
Particularly sought after flat bladed Record QR skewers in top condition and Regina freewheel.
Saddle is a rare San Marco B17 copy, like new.
Also worthy of details is a very interesting 'Lepper' stem ( French? )

Bad points; frame details ( lugs ) have been messed with.

So there we go, thought it was a 74 Nag, but no such luck.
I'd like to get around the £495 mark based on the value of the parts ( groupset, wheels / cockpit ) alone, so if this is of interest please PM.

Oh yeah, Size is 56/57cm.

Thanks for looking!

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Author:  bikenut2010 [ Thu Sep 26, 2013 4:31 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Colnago / Colner?

photo set here...
https://www.dropbox.com/sh/qbkhzk35qsb9gjl/U1pI4G96pR

and Colner for comparison of features etc.
http://www.classicrendezvous.com/Italy/ ... t_bike.htm

Author:  bikenut2010 [ Fri Sep 27, 2013 6:10 pm ]
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any interest? comments?

Author:  knyazb [ Sat Sep 28, 2013 8:59 pm ]
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Oh man, those gear levers!!!

Any chance of trading/selling them? They will perfectly match my Nuovo Record Drillium group.. :roll:

Author:  bikenut2010 [ Sat Sep 28, 2013 9:23 pm ]
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knyazb wrote:
Oh man, those gear levers!!!

Any chance of trading/selling them? They will perfectly match my Nuovo Record Drillium group.. :roll:

If I can't sell the bike I'll be parting it all out:
Super record headset
Super record rear mech
Super record cranks
Nuovo record front mech
Record hubs, nisi rims
Galli brakes
etc etc

Author:  knyazb [ Sat Sep 28, 2013 9:25 pm ]
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Massive dibs on gear levers then..

Author:  bikenut2010 [ Sat Sep 28, 2013 9:28 pm ]
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knyazb wrote:
Massive dibs on gear levers then..

They are really pukka, all properly countersunk, not your usual naff homemade job

Author:  knyazb [ Sat Sep 28, 2013 9:33 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Colnago / Colner?

Perfect match

Image

Author:  bikenut2010 [ Sat Sep 28, 2013 9:37 pm ]
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good grief! spaghetti machine!
I'm wondering about that frame, the forks look right, it's just the way the lug inlays have messed with casts doubts, what do you think???

Author:  knyazb [ Sat Sep 28, 2013 9:43 pm ]
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i think its colnago btw. bb cutout is colnago right?
i assume it was re-painted at some point. maybe thats why clubs on lugs are a bit messed up...

Author:  bikenut2010 [ Sat Sep 28, 2013 9:47 pm ]
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well in that case it's a good price, the parts alone would fetch close on that price based on ebay completed listings ( as opposed to ridiculous fantasy asking prices! )
cranks 120-150
wheels 100
record skewers 30
front mech 25
rear mech 60
headset 50 etc

btw, hysterical popcorn value drillium ad! read comments at bottom!!
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/CAMPAGNOLO-NU ... 7675.l2557

Author:  knyazb [ Sat Sep 28, 2013 10:13 pm ]
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According to Colnago catalogue, all their frames had only 2 top tube cable braze-ons

http://www.raydobbins.com/misc/Colnago_ ... atalog.htm

Yours got 3, and shape is different. Dunno man. Maybe one of its kind, or maybe just quite good replica.
Any serial numbers on rear dropouts?

Author:  bikenut2010 [ Sat Sep 28, 2013 10:24 pm ]
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knyazb wrote:
According to Colnago catalogue, all their frames had only 2 top tube cable braze-ons

http://www.raydobbins.com/misc/Colnago_ ... atalog.htm

Yours got 3, and shape is different. Dunno man. Maybe one of its kind, or maybe just quite good replica.
Any serial numbers on rear dropouts?

I looked into this, early 70s nags had cable clamps, but could be ordered with braze ons, 2 or 3. I've seen plenty with 3, later they became standard 2 as opposed to a factory option.
http://forum.tour-magazin.de/archive/in ... 58426.html
mine fits the 72 spec re fork / tangs / braze ons / seat stay fluted caps, etc.

Most of what we go on is based on the Bulgier scans, and most of these were produced for the US market,
This one with 3 guides has been nicely repainted and sold for $$$$$, very similar build / group.
http://www.eroicacicli.com/forsale/bicy ... tografata/

Author:  bikenut2010 [ Sun Sep 29, 2013 6:52 pm ]
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I had a close look at the seat tube, there's an earlier very worn Colnago 1972 worlds decals peeking out from beneath the later fitted white band panels, and the same style on the chain stays... again all old and worn...

Author:  bikenut2010 [ Mon Sep 30, 2013 6:38 pm ]
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Splitting prices:

Super Record pat 82 rear mech £65
Record front mech £25
Drillium shifters £35 SOLD
Record wheels with Nisi rims, tubs are very good and hold pressure £120 including Regina Freewheel, beautiful Classic wheel set
Campag record straight bladed QR skewers. near mint £30
Campag super Record Strada cranks, pantographed Colnago. £125
Lovely retro Cockpit, bar stem combo £25 with a tenner for levers included and ITM new bar ribbon
Laprade fluted 27.2 seatpost £12
San Marco B17 copy saddle, as new £30
Frameset and Colnago fork £120 SOLD
Campagnolo SL leggera pedale £60 with Ale clips and spare bearing dust cap.
Campag record headset £40
Campag record BB £30
Very nice Galli calipers £25

Post at cost or free if a few items are bought.
dibs and PM please

Author:  Hobbs [ Mon Sep 30, 2013 9:32 pm ]
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i really wouldn't split the f&f

Author:  bikenut2010 [ Mon Sep 30, 2013 9:36 pm ]
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Hobbs wrote:
i really wouldn't split the f&f


So someone buy them both! I'll combine then in the list £120

Author:  Hobbs [ Mon Sep 30, 2013 9:45 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Colnago / Colner?

what are the dimensions again ctc?

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