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PostPosted: Tue May 08, 2012 10:57 pm 
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Dickyboy wrote:
How do peoples get on with initial inflation if the tyre/rim combo is quite tight? I have recently acquired some UST wheels but I had to over inflate the tyres to 60psi just to get the bead to pop onto the rim properly & I can see this might be a problem if I go tubeless.


Try putting some soapy water on the rim / tyre next time as it should help the tyre seat by providing a bit of lubrication


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yes yes yes and finally yes ive been tubless about 3 years now so much easier and you can tell the diff when riding plus lower pressure more grip better rolling whats not to like :D

iv'e used stans and joes but prefer joes ps if you use a co2 inflater on the trail or to get your tires on the rim asap let them down and re inflate using a norma track pump as co2 reacts with sealant and makes it harden into balls of latex rubber seen it first hand :shock:


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PostPosted: Wed May 09, 2012 3:49 am 
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Just got a set of American classic tubeless wheels and some hutchison tyres.. look nicem, haven't got around to using them yet :oops: but they sure seem lighter...

one question (a dumb one) I always assumed you could, but you can still run regular tyres on them right?


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Yes, you just need to remove the tubeless valve from the rim. You should also get away with running' non tubeless' tyres tubeless on them.


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stevec1975 wrote:

Tubeless is the way forward, without a doubt, not for weight saving, as most of the time there isn't,
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Maybe true if you use UST tyres, I just use normal tyres on stans rims and they work fine. One scoop of sealant is a lot lighter than an inner tube, hence the weight saving

Edit: Infact I don't know anybody who uses UST tyres, as normal tyres work on UST rims too and the weight gain of a UST specify tyre isn;t worth it.


I am using standard Schwalbe Rocket Ron's (Non UST), being a weight weenie, I measured everything myself (per wheel weights)

Stan's Rim Strip/Valve = 61g
Ritchey Rim Tape = 13g
1.5 Scoops of Stans = 64g

So slightly heavier than the Tubes I had in place beforehand.

I know if you have stans rims you can dispense with the heavy rim strip and just get a valve (c.10g), it just makes it easier on my rims


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stevec1975 wrote:
dvatcmark wrote:
stevec1975 wrote:

Tubeless is the way forward, without a doubt, not for weight saving, as most of the time there isn't,
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Maybe true if you use UST tyres, I just use normal tyres on stans rims and they work fine. One scoop of sealant is a lot lighter than an inner tube, hence the weight saving

Edit: Infact I don't know anybody who uses UST tyres, as normal tyres work on UST rims too and the weight gain of a UST specify tyre isn;t worth it.


I am using standard Schwalbe Rocket Ron's (Non UST), being a weight weenie, I measured everything myself (per wheel weights)

Stan's Rim Strip/Valve = 61g
Ritchey Rim Tape = 13g
1.5 Scoops of Stans = 64g

So slightly heavier than the Tubes I had in place beforehand.

I know if you have stans rims you can dispense with the heavy rim strip and just get a valve (c.10g), it just makes it easier on my rims


You can get away with using just the yellow stans tape on most rims - 20gm max!


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Yep, I did think about it, but was too much of a wuss to try it, will give it a go with just a valve/stans tape when I change tyres next, will save 80g's too!


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I keep toying with the idea mainly for the weight saving but am put off by:

a) the sitcky mess inside should an inner tube be needed
b) carrying 2 tubes instead of 1 (I carry one spare tube but to ensure I will be able to get home should the sticky goo not work, then I would need 2 tubes).


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02gf74 wrote:
I keep toying with the idea mainly for the weight saving but am put off by:

a) the sitcky mess inside should an inner tube be needed
b) carrying 2 tubes instead of 1 (I carry one spare tube but to ensure I will be able to get home should the sticky goo not work, then I would need 2 tubes).


That's a good point I hadn't considered :?

Hmm.

Would like to give it a bash as have the yellow tape already installed so would just need the goo and the valves.

Seems the way forward ...... I think!


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02gf74 wrote:
I keep toying with the idea mainly for the weight saving but am put off by:

a) the sitcky mess inside should an inner tube be needed
b) carrying 2 tubes instead of 1 (I carry one spare tube but to ensure I will be able to get home should the sticky goo not work, then I would need 2 tubes).


Shush! That could never happen! :facepalm:


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