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PostPosted: Tue Feb 07, 2012 9:53 am 
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I think Specialized also have a dh hub with a 9t on


Canfield are releasing one this year, and for those with good memories for shimano codes it uses a CS-HG70-s 11-26t cassette, ie. Shimano Capreo (the old folding bike groupset)

http://sheldonbrown.com/capreo.html

Of course the point of this is that DHers want stuff that looks cool, 9-26 gives no advantage over a 11-32 other than a tiny bit more ground clearence as your running a smaller front ring (approx 15% less teeth on the chainring for same gear ratios). The disadvantage is sourcing cassettes, new cassette tool, specialist (and its heavier) hub, only compatible with certain frames.

And that last point is important. For those wanting to buy in to the 9t idea, will the chain rub on your frame when in than gear? many frames will!


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PostPosted: Tue Feb 07, 2012 10:26 am 
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All makes sense now! Smaller chainring for dh.

I still seriously think if it aint broke dont fix it! I guess stuff for mtbs is getting slightly 'stale' in that there isnt huge amounts of new tech to advance on. I know stuff can in theory only get better and better with healthy competition but most things on an mtb are near perfect for the majority.


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PostPosted: Tue Feb 07, 2012 10:33 am 
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I dont know if i would call it stale, there is way more significant advancements/technology being currently developed for MTB's than Road (make it a wing shape and call it aero) bikes. I suppose Retrobike prob isnt the best place to keep up on mew tech tho :lol:


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PostPosted: Tue Feb 07, 2012 10:35 am 
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Ooooo harsh haha!

Depends what section your in.

Id assume along with aero, carbon would be hand in hand with that which to me, carbon/aero is the biggest development in the past 5 years or so. Now big wheels.


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PostPosted: Tue Feb 07, 2012 10:43 am 
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DHers want stuff that looks cool. And may believe the hype.
Companies want to sell you stuff that's 'new' and 'the next best thing ever' that'll keep you coming back to them for spares for the sprockets with less teeth in lightweight metal that'll be ideal on your 1x10 setup with that ultra thin chain at those crazy extreme chainlines that'll wear out quicker so they can sell you one of those too.


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stewlewis wrote:
DHers want stuff that looks cool. And may believe the hype.
Companies want to sell you stuff that's 'new' and 'the next best thing ever' that'll keep you coming back to them for spares for the sprockets with less teeth in lightweight metal that'll be ideal on your 1x10 setup with that ultra thin chain at those crazy extreme chainlines that'll wear out quicker so they can sell you one of those too.


I concur.


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PostPosted: Tue Feb 07, 2012 10:46 am 
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Yeah, big wheels and geometry is having bigest impacts i think, also suspension (both tech and designs). One thing that has really started to come through on mtb's now is cutting edge design and development. The intense scrutiny of the tinyest details and refinments in some of the top end designs, particularly carbon as you say, is really pushing the boundaries of what a mountain bike can do/be.


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PostPosted: Tue Feb 07, 2012 11:35 am 
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I'd just like silky smooth hydraulic activated sealed hub gears to go with the smooth hydraulic disc brakes.

That'd do.

Suspension is great, but forks costing more than a decent whole bike, rear designs adding more linkages and bearings to go wrong, more travel so we can build rockier and more uneven trails, I'm just not seeing the point with most of this evolution.


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I agree, I like riding. I don't feel the need to ride over very rocky uneven trails. Riding does not have to be extreme all the time.


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What matters is enjoying your riding. It's too easy to get caught up in all the technology. So what if my rigid singlespeed cannot handle big drops...


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