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Author:  mattbrown [ Mon Sep 05, 2011 4:02 pm ]
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what are the best ones out there?

Author:  cyfa2809 [ Mon Sep 05, 2011 4:49 pm ]
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I speak for most here, Avid BB7's.

But im interested as to what else would come close to them?

Author:  Dangermouse [ Mon Sep 05, 2011 5:11 pm ]
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The BB 7s will take some beating :wink:

Author:  jamabikes [ Mon Sep 05, 2011 6:55 pm ]
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for power hayes hfx 4's are the best i've found. bb7's are just a nadge less powerful but much more smooth and adjustable.

Author:  orange71 [ Mon Sep 05, 2011 8:15 pm ]
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my only experience is BB7s - but very happy with them :D

Author:  michael franks [ Mon Sep 05, 2011 8:32 pm ]
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Like orange71 I've only used BB7s and I'm very happy with them.
I use SD7 levers with them and 160mm rotors front and rear. Might try a 180mm rotor on the front just to see what difference it makes :shock:

Author:  cchris2lou [ Mon Sep 05, 2011 9:01 pm ]
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bb7 here too .

I use them with BOX levers , and theyare great .

I had some bb5 and they were not very good compared to the bb7 .

the bb7 are better than the juicy 3 .

Author:  Thorpie [ Mon Sep 05, 2011 9:14 pm ]
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BB7's.

Trevor.

Author:  FST4RD [ Mon Sep 05, 2011 9:46 pm ]
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BB7's... they stop my 130kg weight :lol:

Author:  dbmtb [ Tue Sep 06, 2011 8:52 am ]
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But why would you want cables when hydraulics are so much better?

Author:  hova [ Tue Sep 06, 2011 9:31 am ]
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dbmtb wrote:
But why would you want cables when hydraulics are so much better?


...near zero maintenance, light weight, supreme modulation, and no need to rebleed during an installation if the cables are run "through" the frame and cable stops as opposed to "zip-tied/attached"?

Author:  mattbrown [ Tue Sep 06, 2011 12:42 pm ]
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hova wrote:
dbmtb wrote:
But why would you want cables when hydraulics are so much better?


...near zero maintenance, light weight, supreme modulation, and no need to rebleed during an installation if the cables are run "through" the frame and cable stops as opposed to "zip-tied/attached"?


One of the reasons I am looking for cable disc brakes for the STS build (should it ever get off the ground)

Author:  WD Pro [ Tue Sep 06, 2011 12:43 pm ]
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Interested in BB7's ...

How do they compare (weight wise) to a v brake set up ?

Whats a good disk size for xc use ?

Cheers,

WD :D

Author:  hova [ Tue Sep 06, 2011 1:02 pm ]
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WD Pro wrote:
Interested in BB7's ...

How do they compare (weight wise) to a v brake set up ?

Whats a good disk size for xc use ?

Cheers,

WD :D


By nature, as there is also a disc involved... I'd say heavier than a lightweight v-brake setup, but lighter than most hydraulic systems. I believe a caliper weighs around 150g and a rotor weighs... well, there's a lot of variation there so you can include whatever rotors you'd like into the mix.

For XC, I tend to use 160 front, 160 rear... have used 140 rear but hard to find cool looking rotors in 140! :lol:

I have BB7s on four of my bikes and they are really really really great... they don't stop and launch you over the bars like some hydraulic systems - rather, I'd say that they are suuuuuper progressive and have amazing feel. More for "scrubbing off" speed unless you really give them a proper squeeze (at which point you've stopped dead in your tracks). I have them mated to all sorts of levers, from cheapo tektro levers to avid ultimates - and really, they feel great with all of them. I can't recommend them enough!!

Author:  Pfennig [ Wed Sep 07, 2011 3:54 am ]
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I've got BB7s on my singlespeed, 180 front and 160 rear. Can't recomend them highly enough. Low maintenance, powerful, easy to set up and most importantly, cheap! :lol:

Author:  cyfa2809 [ Wed Sep 07, 2011 10:10 am ]
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Theyre not that cheap though....

Author:  saltyman [ Wed Sep 07, 2011 12:10 pm ]
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avid BB7, awesome.

easy to adjust, simple and they work.

had them on my jeff jones and salsa mukluk, think my pugsley thats coming has them on too.

Author:  WD Pro [ Wed Sep 07, 2011 12:35 pm ]
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cyfa2809 wrote:
Theyre not that cheap though....


I think On Ones current prices are OK ... :D

WD :D

Author:  MikeD [ Wed Sep 07, 2011 2:54 pm ]
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no need to rebleed during an installation if the cables are run "through" the frame and cable stops as opposed to "zip-tied/attached"?


There's no need to do that with hydraulics if you're careful. Although since most frames don't have suitable closed guides it's a bit moot :)

I use a BB7 on a bike that only has a disc at the front so I can have matching brake levers.

Author:  cyfa2809 [ Wed Sep 07, 2011 11:06 pm ]
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WD Pro wrote:
I think On Ones current prices are OK ... :D

WD :D


On One's prices are pretty good yes - cheapest i have seen. But thats still caliper only, add in levers too and your pretty much in hydro territory even in spite of the fact that some claim bb7 is better.

Author:  highlandsflyer [ Wed Sep 07, 2011 11:41 pm ]
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I reckon the cable versions are great, and well suited to touring or low maintenance.

Hydro are good too, but too much extra crap to carry if you are not needing the power.

Personally I think most people over estimate their requirements.

:)

Author:  Russell [ Thu Sep 08, 2011 1:16 pm ]
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Can anyone tell me accurately, the weight of a set of brake cables vs a set of hydraulic hoses?

Author:  highlandsflyer [ Thu Sep 08, 2011 6:27 pm ]
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Yes, I have a decent set of scales. Send me the items you need weighing.

The difference is so little it really isn't the issue, or shouldn't be.

Ultimately it is about the fettling issue, and survivability.

Author:  Alex Creasey [ Sun Sep 11, 2011 9:38 am ]
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BB7's are the best I've used... Have them on two bikes, will be three shortly.

Kooka's (same as Gusst Chute), which are powerful but a bit fiddly and I find you have to set them up with more gap than the BB7's, meaning you have to pull more cable to get decent braking out of them. Definately feel a bit more budget.

Funn ECX's which are nice and powerful, have a quick cable pull (so quite sharp which I like) but no adjustability other than moving the caliper on the mount which is a pita when setting up.

Personally I like the fact you can run mechanical disc cables through standard cable stops and very easy to maintain the same as any canti's / V's without to much messing with hydraulics.

Author:  ollyb83 [ Tue Sep 13, 2011 9:38 am ]
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BB7's all the way.

i have them on 2 of my bikes, the mountain and road versions, only difference is colors (silver-road, grey/black-mountain)

if you come of your bike and bars spin round, with hydraulics the hose may split, then you have no brake, with cable it stretches so all you do is re-tension the cable and away you go.

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