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Are my Hope XC hubs at the end of their life?
http://www.retrobike.co.uk/forum/viewtopic.php?f=41&t=163166

Author:  Shire [ Thu Aug 25, 2011 4:55 pm ]
Post subject:  Are my Hope XC hubs at the end of their life?

Afternoon all!

Here's a couple of pictures for you to pass an otherwise dull Thursday afternoon:

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Do we think they've had it?

The part of the hub where you screw the discs to has broken away on 3 of the 6 screws. Everything else is working fine with the hubs. Do you guys think that there is anything that can be done to save them? :oops:

Author:  FluffyChicken [ Thu Aug 25, 2011 5:19 pm ]
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I'll take the broken hubs for the innards (and freehub body)

But you could use them as none disc hubs or drill through and use a nut at the other side of the bolt hole to help secure it there.

Author:  WD Pro [ Thu Aug 25, 2011 5:26 pm ]
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I wouldn't be happy bolting a disk onto that :-( even the 'good' mounts don't look to have great threads :-(

I reckon, used in anger, that could give a similar disk failure to what's talked about in this thread : http://www.retrobike.co.uk/forum/viewtopic.php?t=163080 :-(

WD :D

Author:  Shire [ Thu Aug 25, 2011 6:39 pm ]
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Well I've been riding them everyday for a week (probably 50 miles) and they seem fine. The bearings are great and I've just serviced them too. The front wheel is fine, just a shame about the rear.

The threads actually hold the bolt and you can tighten them up fine too. The bolt is long enough so that it disappears into the hub so the end of it is still threaded if that makes sense?

They're laced to White Halo SAS rims (no braking surface) and are actually a pretty strong wheel!

Author:  suburbanreuben [ Fri Aug 26, 2011 7:59 am ]
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Take the advice above; They're toast.

Author:  Shire [ Fri Aug 26, 2011 2:26 pm ]
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Hope have said if I return the hub, they'll send me a replacement PRO 2 EVO for £72.50. Seems quite reasonable (half price hub) but I'd have to rebuild the wheel myself. Tempting but not something I've done before!

Author:  02gf74 [ Sat Aug 27, 2011 9:58 am ]
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£ 70 ish quid is cheap compared to several thousands for dental and/or facial reconstruction surgery or for social services to supply someone to push you around in a wheelchair and wipe your bottom for the rest of your life.

BIN THEM!!!!!

it may be possible to have the lost part built up, either by TIG or lumiweld/technoweld and only if rear hub but I still wouldn't.

Author:  xizang [ Sat Aug 27, 2011 10:10 am ]
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It may not look very nice but you could build them up with this stuff then thread it???
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Author:  02gf74 [ Sat Aug 27, 2011 10:24 am ]
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I wouldn't trust epoxy stuff, not even JB Weld which is the stronger of them.

lumiweld may be an option but I would test it on something similar first.

Author:  tintin40 [ Sat Aug 27, 2011 10:29 am ]
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suburbanreuben wrote:
Take the advice above; They're toast.


Agree burnt toast at that

Author:  xizang [ Sat Aug 27, 2011 11:06 am ]
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02gf74 wrote:
I wouldn't trust epoxy stuff, not even JB Weld which is the stronger of them.

lumiweld may be an option but I would test it on something similar first.


The Lumiweld stuff looks better. As for being toast? Most of the metal is there to build/weld onto, 3 bolt holes are intact, don't see why it shouldn't be ok? I'm no metallurgist, but personally I'd give it a go.
If I had the money however, I'd get a nice new set of Pro 2 Evo's.

Author:  GWDesigns [ Sat Aug 27, 2011 8:54 pm ]
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I wouldn't risk personally but then I like not having to visit AandE mid ride.

Author:  cyfa2809 [ Sun Aug 28, 2011 3:08 pm ]
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You should go for those hubs, all the info is available to learn to build a wheel - i took a jump recently and decided to build a wheel using sheldons guide. That was 2 months ago and im 7 wheels deep now :lol:
Just make sure if its your main rider/commuter you have a spare available to give yourself enough time to build it properly (and get a decent spoke key too).

That said, if you have 3 good bolt holes - there was a thread recently where it was mentioned peaty only runs 3 bolts on his rotors.

Author:  WD Pro [ Sun Aug 28, 2011 7:57 pm ]
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Three bolts may well be enough - if designed around three ...

That hub has two neighbouring holes / flanges busted, that's a big section of disk unsupported / unevenly loaded :-(

WD :D

Author:  dyna-ti [ Sun Aug 28, 2011 11:38 pm ]
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It would be possible if you use some sort of shaped washer at the back and front of the 2 busted mounts :? In that it would spread the load.Even a ring encompassing all the mount holes.It would offset the rotor its thickness but you may have enough adjustment to compensate :?


Or you could replace it for 30 quid :wink:

Author:  cyfa2809 [ Mon Aug 29, 2011 10:53 pm ]
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WD Pro wrote:
That hub has two neighbouring holes / flanges busted, that's a big section of disk unsupported / unevenly loaded :-(


Yeah realised that after, your bolt holes wouldnt be safe doing that

Author:  Shire [ Tue Aug 30, 2011 11:13 am ]
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dyna-ti wrote:
Or you could replace it for 30 quid :wink:


Damn, I've only just seen this and I've just bought a new wheel. I took all of your advice onboard and weighed up the cost of a new wheel vs facial surgery.

Just spent the week in hospital looking after my Dad and its boring as sin so new wheel time it is!

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