Andy R wrote:
~ QUALITY FULL SUS MTB's are EXPENSIVE (NO SUCH THING AS A BARGAIN QUALITY FULL SUS AS MOST £1000+, WHEREAS QUALITY HARDTAIL MTB's START £350+).
I don't think so - have you looked at the price of good (Fox, Magura) suspension forks lately?
Those are the minimum for frame prices, more like - not complete bikes.
Well we all can be quite prudent to getting a full shimano groupset, or a decent groupset, the lightest frame
, the lighest suspension fork
, but these days if you will settle for less then full XTR, XT, SLX then DEORE or less equipped MTBs with online discounts, seasonal sales (Upto 5% to 30% off), or negotiating with local bike shops a few quality examples that UK RRP is £450, or less:
GARY FISHER WAHOO DISK RRP £450
(The spec on this is very good, I wouldn't change anything on this, apart putting essential accessories)
GT AVALANCHE DISK 2011 sale price £360
(Quality MTB frame & fork with some budget parts, that will last for years)
CARRERA KRAKEN sale price £350
GARY FISHER TARPON RRP £325
CARRERA VULCAN web price £200
Since the majority of cyclists aren't interested in:
~ QUALITY FULL SUSPENSION MTB's,
~ FULL SUSPENSION FRAMES and
~ LIGHTER FRONT SUSPENSION FORKS
~ HYDRAULIC DISK BRAKES
It's a simple case (Economies of scale) that these are exaggerated prices for people prepared to pay alot more. Alot of these prices are unrealistically high, but for serious MTB's getting the lightest part, the highest spec part (etc), means alot to them, so they're prepared to pay a high price.
Also to build a bike if bought all parts separately who cost significantly more, so most parts bought afterwards have a much much larger profit margin then a complete MTB, whatever it is (Well apart from the cheapest Apollo, Trax, Gemini).
If you've ever worked in a bike shop, customers who are unfamiliar with bikes, are unaware of groupset levels, and feel unobligated to pay for a bike with a 'better quality groupset', hence we have groupsets with a different number of gears (21, 24, 27, 30).
Giant Trance x1 ~ 2008