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 Post subject: Scratching an itch
PostPosted: Sun May 15, 2011 10:32 pm 
Old School Grand Master
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Next build...yeh yeh...you've heard it all before...but I need to scratch the 29er itch.
I have started with the wheels....silver Phil Wood on DT Swiss TK7.1 courtesy of Andy on STW
Better start looking for a frame I guess.


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PostPosted: Wed May 18, 2011 12:34 am 
98+ BoTM Winner / Gold Trader
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Any exuse to post some pictures of nice steel rides out there:

How about the Vassago Jabberwocky:
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Or the Soma Juice:
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Or go British, I loved my Singular:
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Here's one in a better size:
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I could go on like this there's so many.
What are you looking for in a frame?

Enjoy!!


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PostPosted: Wed May 18, 2011 8:17 am 
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That Jabberwocky looks gorgeous.

What am I looking for? Steel and light (enough)...I had heard that the Singular frames build up quite heavy?


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Will be watching this thread carefully as would also love a lightweight steel 29er


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PostPosted: Wed May 18, 2011 10:10 am 
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Mixed love for the Swift here.

Mine in a 1x9 format was really quite heavy - nearly 30lbs but rode a lot lighter.

I guess a lot is down to build.

I also found even using a flat bar and o degree stem that the bar height was higher than I would have liked.

Average_Mark's Swift is circa 23lb IIRC and goes like stink but thats with an uber light carbon fork etc

Sam @ Singular had a few ex demo/shop stock bikes at good knock down prices recently.

Edit >>> Just read an email from Cotic to say they wont be making a small 29er due to rider/bike compatibility issues:

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I know lots of you are interested in the Solaris frame, so here's the update. It tooks some doing to get comfortable on the bike as I like low-ish bars, but the Sunline 762's I got from One Industries Europe have been spot on, especially since I chopped them down to my usual 710mm width. Even though the Solaris has short top tubes as 29ers go, the 29er layout does make it hard to get bars low if you like that, so we'll be recommending flat bars mostly and sizing you guys up carefully to make sure it's spot on for you. It's also hardened my resolve not to do a small size. If I'm 6ft 3in and I found the bike felt too high with anything other than flat bars on it, then there's no way small size people are going to get anything out of a 29er in my opinion, or certainly nothing apart from something that rolls quick but you can't throw around, and where's the fun in that? A bike you can't chuck around certainly is not a very Cotic bike, that's for sure. We'll be doing medium for people down to around 5ft 9in, and there will be an XL size inserted above our usual large for guys up to around 6ft 7in ish.


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PostPosted: Wed May 18, 2011 12:57 pm 
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Mine sat at 24.5lbs with the stock forks on it, it's now dipped to 23 with the new forks. The weight doesn't tell the whole story though, they are damn good bikes.


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PostPosted: Wed May 18, 2011 2:03 pm 
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Average Mark wrote:
Mine sat at 24.5lbs with the stock forks on it, it's now dipped to 23 with the new forks. The weight doesn't tell the whole story though, they are damn good bikes.


+1

I've ridden a few swifts, and they are fast as. They fly up the hills like few other bikes I have ridden, regardless of weight. A 29er is always going to be a bit heavier because of the extra material required in the wheels and frame.

I haven't weighed mine yet.


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PostPosted: Wed May 18, 2011 11:17 pm 
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Another Vassago, this time with their own steel ODIS forks.
Don't advertise as being light weight, but ODIS means Oh Darn It's Smooth".

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And Retrootec make some nice bikes too (I could buy one just for the name)
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Enjoy!!


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PostPosted: Wed May 18, 2011 11:44 pm 
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Thanks chaps...dang...why did you show a picture of the Retrotec..been ogling their web-site for a while 8)


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