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PostPosted: Sun May 26, 2013 10:04 am 
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Don't recall a klein like this, odd build.

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/klein-pave-bi ... 33826b849b


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PostPosted: Sun May 26, 2013 10:11 am 
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Very odd build indeed, hope my memory is not failing me again but I do remember reports saying that this frame was built to have rigid forks fitted to it :?


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PostPosted: Sun May 26, 2013 10:16 am 
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You are right, looks like a fairly stock 1998 Klein Karma Pave, as shown in the 1998 Klein Catalog. Sheesh.


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PostPosted: Sun May 26, 2013 10:38 am 
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Just goes to prove because you can do something doesn't necessarily mean you should do it :facepalm:


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PostPosted: Sun May 26, 2013 1:57 pm 
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I once worked on a mantra with a rigid fork. Very odd.


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PostPosted: Mon May 27, 2013 6:16 pm 
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Gary designed the mantra to have a rigid fork as the rear end was desgined to act as front and rear suspension but he ended up putting sus forks on as he was told it wouldnt sell without.
The karma was basically a hybrid version on the mantra


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PostPosted: Mon May 27, 2013 8:07 pm 
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dirtydozen wrote:
Gary designed the mantra to have a rigid fork as the rear end was desgined to act as front and rear suspension but he ended up putting sus forks on as he was told it wouldnt sell without.
The karma was basically a hybrid version on the mantra


Not so, the Karma was its own model. Yes, Klein made the 'Pave' hybrid version of it, but the original Karma was an off road machine with suspension forks, a single beam swing arm (as opposed to the Mantras triangle) and a piece of closed cell elastomer foam (poor at best) for the rear shock whereas the Mantra had a proper shock or spring/shock set-up, depending on the year of manufacture.


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PostPosted: Mon May 27, 2013 8:34 pm 
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It was terrible when I had a quick go on it.


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PostPosted: Mon May 27, 2013 9:11 pm 
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cyfa2809 wrote:
It was terrible when I had a quick go on it.

Mantra ain't bad as its Sweet Spot, doesn't bob as much as a Trek Yframe AFAIK.


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PostPosted: Mon May 27, 2013 11:51 pm 
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cyfa2809 wrote:
It was terrible when I had a quick go on it.


I concur. For Klein, a bad day at the office.


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