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 Post subject: Twin crown Judy FSX....?
PostPosted: Tue Jun 02, 2020 11:45 am 
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Erm has anyone seen anything like these before, I certainly havent..

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/153954481659

Lowers look good but they have been converted into twin crown/triple clamp, forks, doesn't even look like a rock shox lower crown, although I was thinking it could have been a set of Judy xl forks that surrendered their uppers, stanchions are the wrong colour aren't they?

Are they actually a thing that I've never come across before, or is it a homebrew special with a hefty price tag :lol:


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PostPosted: Tue Jun 02, 2020 11:50 am 
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They are indeed legit, usually only seen on team bikes in 95/96 season, just before the boxxer came out.
They are very rare and would have been seen on only a fee of the top riders bikes at that time. Probably worth the money but sadly I dont have a bike that would suit them. The crowns are unique and custom fabricated, again a precursor to the boxxer.


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PostPosted: Tue Jun 02, 2020 2:31 pm 
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Err - fairly sure its a Firestarter dual crown kit, sold back in 1997, nothing like a DHO or proto boxxer which had different crowns

https://www.pinkbike.com/photo/14214884/

https://www.mtb-mag.com/en/gallery-rock ... r-history/

That is a proto boxxer - different stanchions and crown....


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PostPosted: Tue Jun 02, 2020 3:05 pm 
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boxxer wrote:
Err - fairly sure its a Firestarter dual crown kit, sold back in 1997, nothing like a DHO or proto boxxer which had different crowns

https://www.pinkbike.com/photo/14214884/

https://www.mtb-mag.com/en/gallery-rock ... r-history/

That is a proto boxxer - different stanchions and crown....


Wow it looks like you are right, I stand corrected. Had never heard of a firestarter kit.


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PostPosted: Tue Jun 02, 2020 3:27 pm 
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Location: Near a tree, by a river in a hole in the ground....
They were only made for a year as The DHO and then the Boxxer followed in quick succession

I've sent them a message on ebay to let them know and asked how they arrived at the price which is ludicrous to be fair


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PostPosted: Tue Jun 02, 2020 9:21 pm 
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Seller notes: “These are off my ex team spare bike. Rare and in excellent condition. Were fitted with Spinergy wheels.”
Whether true or not, who knows; but they have an origin.


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PostPosted: Wed Jun 03, 2020 7:57 am 
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Mate, my Judy's and Boxxers came off bikes I raced, I wouldnt put much stock in that

I've told them how much each sold for new - the Firestarter kit was like £180 and the Judy was £400ish so even together they are not £750

They told me "I asked a guy at Bikeradar and he said £750" - shows what Bikeradar knows to be honest


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PostPosted: Wed Jun 03, 2020 8:13 am 
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Well everyday is a school day, I'd never seen, nor heard of the firestarter kit before, pretty cool but even with some fsx forks on the bottom, still not worth that in my eyes!

I have two sets of fsx forks, one came on my jmc rep when I bought it, and I bought a near mint set from a lovely chap on a retro fb page a couple of months back for £300, which seems to be the going rate for them.

Good luck to the seller though, I just hope nobody hits 'BIN' after a few beers and whilst wearing rose tinted Oakleys :lol:


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 Post subject: Re: Re:
PostPosted: Wed Jun 03, 2020 12:29 pm 
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boxxer wrote:
Mate, my Judy's and Boxxers came off bikes I raced, I wouldnt put much stock in that

I've told them how much each sold for new - the Firestarter kit was like £180 and the Judy was £400ish so even together they are not £750

They told me "I asked a guy at Bikeradar and he said £750" - shows what Bikeradar knows to be honest


the stock judy xc RRP was around £350. the judy SL & specialized FSX were more like £550 RRP. they were all heavily discounted a short while after. I had a set in 97.


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