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PostPosted: Mon Mar 12, 2018 10:44 pm 
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This one is just a curiosity: an Apollo Avalanche with triple triangle frame, complete with GT18 decals. Absolutely blatant rip-off! No reflection on the seller, who appears genuine enough.
https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Apollo-Avala ... Swgc1aoBcW


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PostPosted: Tue Mar 13, 2018 10:50 am 
Dirt Disciple

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thats a halfords apollo bike from 89/90 ish £100 probably new all stickers are apollo not GT


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PostPosted: Tue Mar 13, 2018 1:04 pm 
Old School Hero

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Yes, I know. But as well as the Apollo decals, it has decals saying 'GT18', just to make it even more of a rip-off. I suppose the curiosity is that Halfords was not stopped from selling them by legal action from GT.


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PostPosted: Tue Mar 13, 2018 1:31 pm 
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GT is too generic a term for litigation


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PostPosted: Tue Mar 13, 2018 3:12 pm 
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mdvineng wrote:
GT is too generic a term for litigation


I'm not a legal expert by any stretch of the imagination, but the decals say 'GT18', and 'Avalanche' and it has a 'Triple-triangle' frame. What they were trying to do seems pretty clear even if litigation was not on the cards. Obviously, it is not an attempt at counterfeit - after all, it has the Apollo decals - but it does look like it was an attempt to boost sales with a kind of "poor man's GT Avalanche".


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PostPosted: Tue Mar 13, 2018 3:28 pm 
King of the Skip Monkeys
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You are only about 27 years late.

That Apollo is perfectly legit.

GT do not own the 'triple triangle' design and never have done, maybe a patent existed for a while on the assembly with specificity toward tube piercing. Its hard to claim ownership of something that has already existed for decades - its called a 'Hellenic' frame:

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A later Hawk Trakatak

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And a non triple triangle GT - Surely GT are 'ripping off' the double diamond frame!

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PostPosted: Tue Mar 13, 2018 3:29 pm 
King of the Skip Monkeys
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CassidyAce wrote:
This one is just a curiosity: an Apollo Avalanche with triple triangle frame, complete with GT18 decals. Absolutely blatant rip-off! No reflection on the seller, who appears genuine enough.
https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Apollo-Avala ... Swgc1aoBcW



Take a deep breath, calm down and have a cup of tea, maybe with a biscuit or two.


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PostPosted: Tue Mar 13, 2018 3:57 pm 
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If Lancia had produced a sports car that looked a bit like a Lotus and called it the Esprit Lotus18 . . . Hmmm. You know that feeling when you think you've made a point clearly enough and nobody quite gets what you're saying . . . Sometimes it's just better to drop it.

I think I'll inspect the remaining contents of my lunchbox: just got a slightly warm cheese sandwich - no biscuits. :(

But the kettle beckons. And the dark storm clouds of work thunder ominously. I think I ought to go out more - might try cycling even. :D


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PostPosted: Tue Mar 13, 2018 4:47 pm 
King of the Skip Monkeys
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You are missing the point, the design is there for all to use.

Some more to noodle your noggin

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PostPosted: Tue Mar 13, 2018 4:51 pm 
King of the Skip Monkeys
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CassidyAce wrote:
If Lancia had produced a sports car that looked a bit like a Lotus and called it the Esprit Lotus18 . . . Hmmm. You know that feeling when you think you've made a point clearly enough and nobody quite gets what you're saying . . . Sometimes it's just better to drop it.

I think I'll inspect the remaining contents of my lunchbox: just got a slightly warm cheese sandwich - no biscuits. :(

But the kettle beckons. And the dark storm clouds of work thunder ominously. I think I ought to go out more - might try cycling even. :D



But they werent copying anyone. Its a specific type of design.

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