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 Post subject: Re: unknown gt £40 bin
PostPosted: Sat Aug 24, 2013 11:18 pm 
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Really hard to tell but possibly a Karakoram, avalanche etc..

When you get it, do a little scratch away in an I significant area and if you're lucky you might reveal the original paint and more of a clue.. especially around the welds


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 Post subject: Re: unknown gt £40 bin
PostPosted: Sun Aug 25, 2013 1:21 am 
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Brake mounts are above the pads, so it's a U-brake!


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 Post subject: Re: unknown gt £40 bin
PostPosted: Mon Aug 26, 2013 12:06 am 
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Short postscript, for those interested:

On examination, it looks like the black paint's original - this together with the groove tube, replaceable mech hanger, U-brake and very neat welds, is making me lean towards a Richter 8.0 8)

I shall start a build thread as soon as Mrs_koupe returns with the camera on Tuesday - however I fear I won't be able to resist stripping it long before then :D


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 Post subject: Re: unknown gt £40 bin
PostPosted: Mon Aug 26, 2013 3:24 pm 
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 Post subject: Re: unknown gt £40 bin
PostPosted: Mon Aug 26, 2013 3:38 pm 
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Koupe wrote:
Short postscript, for those interested:

On examination, it looks like the black paint's original - this together with the groove tube, replaceable mech hanger, U-brake and very neat welds, is making me lean towards a Richter 8.0 8)


Replaceable mech-hanger !! Now we're talking.
Definitely high-end steel. Must be Bravado, Psyclone, Richter, Team Avalanche.
If its a 2 bolt hanger its a later one.


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 Post subject: Re: unknown gt £40 bin
PostPosted: Mon Aug 26, 2013 4:50 pm 
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Single-bolt hanger, so a '92 I believe? Also has weird vertical 'pegs' just in front of the rack mounts.

EDIT: According to an advert in the archive, the 'pegs' are actually dropout adjustment screws 8) I'm thinking I should probably get a couple of spare hangers machined up, just in case....


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 Post subject: Re: unknown gt £40 bin
PostPosted: Mon Aug 26, 2013 9:30 pm 
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Lucky, lucky b*****d !

I believe you have a 92 Psyclone or Bravado. Epic score for £40.
By 93 they'd moved to 2 bolt hanger, think that was the only year of both the adjuster screws & single bolt.

I think the Psyclone was fillet brazed while the Bravado wasn't. Psyclone came in black that year
if you think paint is original.

92 Bravado (courtesy of GM)
http://www.retrobike.co.uk/forum/viewto ... p;t=237347


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 Post subject: Re: unknown gt £40 bin
PostPosted: Mon Aug 26, 2013 10:42 pm 
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Well, it's definitely not fillet brazed, although I am impressed with the neatness of the welds - so that would make it a Bravado or Richter? Afraid I have very little knowledge of GT history :oops: am I right in thinking the frame was US-made?

(I'm dead chuffed with the frame regardless of its identity, but it would be nice to put the correct decals back on it!)


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 Post subject: Re: unknown gt £40 bin
PostPosted: Mon Aug 26, 2013 11:08 pm 
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I think the Richter only came with 2 bolt hanger and didn't have the adjusters.
So that leaves a Bravado, very nice frame True Temper tubes possibly US made (tho below says
different).

Here's another.

http://www.retrobike.co.uk/forum/viewto ... mp;t=87632


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 Post subject: Re: unknown gt £40 bin
PostPosted: Tue Aug 27, 2013 8:48 am 
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1992 Karakoram had a one-bolt replaceable hanger and drop-out adjusters and I thought the 1992 Richter 8.0 was the same frame - it definitely had drop-out adjusters, though I haven't had one, so can't vouch for the replaceable hanger.

[edit] It did:

viewtopic.php?t=209479

So I'd still bet on 1992 Richter 8.0


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