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PostPosted: Thu May 25, 2006 8:52 pm 
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Personally I don't think it is so won't be buying/bidding on it but somebody here might know their Manits frames better than me!

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=7243910186&rd=1&sspagename=STRK%3AMEWA%3AIT&rd=1

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PostPosted: Thu May 25, 2006 9:23 pm 
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saracen e-stay


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PostPosted: Thu May 25, 2006 9:39 pm 
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Do you remember the model name?


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PostPosted: Thu May 25, 2006 9:40 pm 
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kili flyer i think?


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PostPosted: Fri May 26, 2006 8:12 am 
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Thats what I would have thought. Saracen.

Isnt it funny how these auctions never state the 'opposite' and get the bike wildy underestimated. Its always the other way round... if you see what I mean.

"You are bidding on a silver lightweight bike - probably a Carrera from halfords"

...and in fact its a Merlin Mountain or something...


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PostPosted: Fri May 26, 2006 8:16 am 
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the top tube extends past the seat tube,like a GT?


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PostPosted: Fri May 26, 2006 12:58 pm 
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this is what he tinks it is, which is also what its not....


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PostPosted: Fri May 26, 2006 2:21 pm 
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Quote:
"Handbuilt by I. Grist, Luton"


Which of course is just round the corner from Mantis :lol:


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PostPosted: Sun May 28, 2006 10:38 am 
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to be fair to the guy I swapped a few emails with him and he swapped it for an old cannondale frame. He seems fairly honest that it might not be a mantis. Not only does the top tube stick out like a GT but the raised stays join near the down tube and the drop outs are nothing like Mantis ones. The built in Luton kind confirms this. I don't remember the Saracen having brake bridges like that... will have to dig a picture out...


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PostPosted: Sun May 28, 2006 12:01 pm 
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That is an Estay Saracen ( and a pile of poo to boot ).Top tube was peirced so the protruding butt could have an " S " cap welded on it sometimes ( depending on whether the Taiwanese frame builders could be bothered at the time....many Kiliflyers ended up badged as Carreras and sold at that price too! )
Run away.


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