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PostPosted: Fri May 19, 2006 9:36 am 
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Some days ago I made an offer on a German eBay Grove HardCore frameset (yes, incl. HC fork and Hammerhead).

I were the second highest bidder, so I didn't win :(

Now I received an email in my mailbox (yes, an official eBay mail): The item is offered to me again, as the highest bidder couldn't meet. In the email a link to the item with the original description and what I have to pay (my highest bid).

Okay, I contacted seller on what is going on: He is now saying he is offering it to me at that price excluding HC fork and Hammerhead!! I can have them all, but than I will have pay at least 500 he says!!

Yeah right, great party to deal with. Told him I understand he isn't really willing to sell anymore, that I have no interest in hassle and let the offer pass and that next time he should think twice before selling.

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Anyway, still no Grove


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PostPosted: Fri May 19, 2006 9:39 am 
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Yeah thats a common thing on ebay. They shill bid to get the auction price up then they offer the highest second bidder (who tends to be a genuine bidder) the item for the selling price. Well dodgy.

What I would do is this - say you want to see the evidence of him leaving negative feedback on the winning bidders account - then you will deal with him as proof.


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PostPosted: Fri May 19, 2006 9:43 am 
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second chance offers ARE regular things and had them happen to me

but you pay the price YOU bid , NOT the highest bid


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PostPosted: Fri May 19, 2006 9:43 am 
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Yeah but no but yeah but no but....


To prove that there isnt shill bidding going on surely you need some proof that the seller isnt conning you?


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PostPosted: Fri May 19, 2006 9:47 am 
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to be fair the items its happened to me on were not megabucks , so not an issue of shill bidding

but when talking about that amount it is an issue


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PostPosted: Fri May 19, 2006 10:11 am 
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jez-2-many-bikes wrote:
Yeah thats a common thing on ebay. They shill bid to get the auction price up then they offer the highest second bidder (who tends to be a genuine bidder) the item for the selling price. Well dodgy.


Okay, interesting. I didn't see it from this perspective. I am not really a routine eBayer you know.

My point was more on that he did change his offer. On the eBay page it is incl fork and bar/stem combo (yes, also under the link that is provided me now), but by contacting him I learned he won't let them go for at least an additional 190 euros! Of course I am right, but not really looking forward to the hassle it will give when I buy through eBay. This makes me thinking what would have been happened if I didn't contact him?! I would have rushed into trouble. Actually he is a big @ssh*le :evil:


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PostPosted: Fri May 19, 2006 10:16 am 
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The auction was discussed before overhere:

http://www.retrobike.co.uk/forum/viewtopic.php?t=2249

Seller 'mc-gywer'


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PostPosted: Fri May 19, 2006 10:18 am 
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if he wants extra for what was originally in the auction , F--K HIM

you could report him to e bay for that !! against their rules


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PostPosted: Fri May 19, 2006 10:20 am 
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I think it is even illegal

Yes, I will report eBay


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