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PostPosted: Sun Mar 10, 2013 10:07 pm 
Dirt Disciple

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Hi, I'm looking for a Carlton catalogue from 1971/2 with the Carlton Competition in. I've just picked an old frame up in white and blue and I'd like to keep it as original as possible.
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PostPosted: Sat Mar 16, 2013 8:31 pm 
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Wasn't the Competition a frame only? We certainly sold them as frames in the 70's, not in blue though.

I guess it's Lagoon blue :) pic would be nice though.

Shaun


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PostPosted: Sun Mar 17, 2013 9:18 pm 
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got one from early 80's ?


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PostPosted: Mon Mar 18, 2013 11:13 pm 
Dirt Disciple

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Here's the best photo I have at the moment. I can get a better one when I'm back home, but this should give you an idea. I've seen almost identical frames on the internet with Raleigh Decals on, but this has the original Carlton headbadge.


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PostPosted: Wed Mar 20, 2013 7:52 pm 
Dirt Disciple

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biggs682 wrote:
got one from early 80's ?


Thanks for the offer. I'm really looking for the one from 1971/2 to help with my build.


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PostPosted: Sun Mar 24, 2013 7:40 pm 
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Rustyretro wrote:
biggs682 wrote:
got one from early 80's ?


Thanks for the offer. I'm really looking for the one from 1971/2 to help with my build.


not a problem


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PostPosted: Wed May 08, 2013 11:04 am 
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Yes I have.Will sort out when i get home today.

Right .It shows the "Team Professional" model.1971 cat.As a full bike.

The 1969/70 shows the Competition as a frame set only.

Please as if would would like a copy.


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PostPosted: Fri May 17, 2013 9:15 pm 
Dirt Disciple

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bagpuss wrote:
Yes I have.Will sort out when i get home today.

Right .It shows the "Team Professional" model.1971 cat.As a full bike.

The 1969/70 shows the Competition as a frame set only.

Please as if would would like a copy.


I'd love a copy please.

I've sent a PM.

Thanks very much.


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PostPosted: Mon May 01, 2017 8:22 pm 
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The 1971 Carlton Competition had the same parts as a Gransport (or Peugeot PX-10), just with maes bars and tubular rims and tires. The tubulars were either AVA "washer" rims (no eyelets - raw aluminum) or NISI evian "washer" rims (as found on my 1973 competition). If you can find mavic washer rims then get them & relabel them as mavic bought AVA. I make the paper diamond labels. The PX-10/Competition specs were:

http://www.bulgier.net/pics/bike/Catalo ... atalog.pdf

- simplex prestige plastic geartrain (black delrin ~ red label rear mech)
- normandy comp hubs
- stronglight 93 crankset 52/42
- GB stem and raleigh (long-reach) maes bars (not randonneur bars)
- Brooks B-17 saddle
- Atom 440 pedals or 700 pedals
- Atom/Maillard 14-24 5-speed freewheel
- Brooks toe clips or Christophe toe clips & straps (Christophe or Lapize)
- white ribbed cables. white herringbone plastic tape. milremo star bar plugs (~ crap get something else)
- Weinmann 610 brakeset with special QR drilled levers with lima-bean sized holes.
- Likely tires are hutchinson tubs or maybe raleigh nylon extra (get panaracer practice tires ~ modern equiv)

The main differences between PX-10 and Competition were saddle (Ideale vs. Brooks), brakes (Mafac vs. Weinmann) and the Normandy/Maillard/Atom QRs on (light delrin black plastic vs heavy ATOM nuts).

Most of the parts can be scavanged very cheaply from a Raleigh Grand Prix or Super Course of the same era - just need to change the wheels and the crankset and get some lightweight atom pedals (or similar).


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PostPosted: Mon May 01, 2017 8:48 pm 
Dirt Disciple

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Wow - that's a very detailed spec. I built it up somewhat differently to that. Thanks for taking the time to put the information together.


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