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Author:  Old Ned [ Thu Dec 15, 2011 1:14 pm ]
Post subject:  Raleigh Frame Brochure 1987-part SBDU!

I came across this at the same 'jumble' as the RTTC Handbooks. My friend had 'liberated' a large stack of assorted brochures from shop that was closing and this, along with several other 'interesting' ones I have loaned for scanning.

Hopefully this will assist in determining the provenance of Raleigh frames at the time when they were possibly at their most interesting. If anyone has anything to add then please do!

As there are 4 pages I'll do 2 posts.

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Author:  Old Ned [ Thu Dec 15, 2011 1:17 pm ]
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Here are the next 2 pages.

If anyone would like a scan please contact me. I do have larger versions which could be used in the 'Brochures' section.

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Author:  fiks [ Thu Dec 15, 2011 2:13 pm ]
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Excellent find!

That must be the first year for 653, note the older frame sticker design; the later one is more plain.

Author:  roadking [ Thu Dec 15, 2011 2:23 pm ]
Post subject:  SBDU - No.

Apologies for raining on your parade Ned, but it is not an SBDU brochure.

What it is is a Lightweight Unit (Nottingham) brochure - only the back page relates to the SBDU.

I have a genuine SBDU brochure* which as far as I am aware was only available from Ilkeston - which is where mine came from.

For the record (fiks) 653 was introduced in 1986 and superseded 531Pro.

Roadking.

P.S will post a few pages if any interest.

Author:  Old Ned [ Thu Dec 15, 2011 2:40 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: SBDU - No.

roadking wrote:
Apologies for raining on your parade Ned, but it is not an SBDU brochure.

What it is is a Lightweight Unit (Nottingham) brochure - only the back page relates to the SBDU.

P.S will post a few pages if any interest.


Ah, yes, I see that now :oops:

Perhaps I should have read it a bit closer, I saw the magic letters 'SBDU' and rushed into print. I've amended the heading accordingly.

OH, and yes please to your brochure offer.

Author:  roadking [ Thu Dec 15, 2011 2:49 pm ]
Post subject:  SBDU.

I'll post the front page shortly.

And the rest - when I have time - on a new thread.

Rk.

Author:  Spokesmann [ Thu Dec 15, 2011 9:31 pm ]
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Great stuff!

Author:  pigman [ Thu Dec 15, 2011 10:20 pm ]
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I too had this brochure - it made me buy my raleigh 531 luxe frame

Author:  roadking [ Fri Dec 16, 2011 11:39 am ]
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Trying to download my SBDU brochure -"file too big".

I'm slightly puzzled what to do next.

Rk.

Author:  roadking [ Sat Dec 31, 2011 6:18 pm ]
Post subject:  Here's The Front Page!

Front page only for now.

Genuine SBDU catalogue.

Catalogue cos it isn't glossy - quality work needs no promotion.

Roadking.

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Author:  S1m0nR [ Tue Jan 31, 2012 1:04 pm ]
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Hi there,

Many thanks for posting these scans - I've had a Raleigh Type 8806 frame for some time and wanted to know more about it because I couldn't find it anywhere in any brochures.

I know it's not listed as a SBDU frame, but perculiarly, it does have the "Go'D" oval decal (in the top left hand corner of the diagram on the last page) which was apparently fitted to Gerald O'Donovan SBDU frames. Maybe this was fitted erroneously some time later on.

The frame is my current daily commuter bike, built up with a mix of modern components and lightweight alloy '80s kit.

It's great to know where it came from and roughly how old it is!!

Cheers!

Author:  S1m0nR [ Tue Jan 31, 2012 1:05 pm ]
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Here's how it looked the day that I built it - it's quite a lot dirtier now!

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Author:  roadking [ Tue Jan 31, 2012 1:27 pm ]
Post subject:  Raleigh.

S1m0nR wrote:
Here's how it looked the day that I built it - it's quite a lot dirtier now!

Image


Nice looking bike.

My impression is the GOD logo was used fairly late. Difficult to ascertain when it began to appear, I suspect when the SBDU at Ilkeston was closed. My SBDU did not have one - I've had it from new and I'm reluctant to put one on - they're often retro fitted.

My guess is the intention was to use it as a marketing tool across a wide range of frames and giving some kudos to the lesser models Raleigh was producing (as well as the Special Products produced with GOD still at Raleigh at this time.

Your frame does not appear in the SBDU brochure though - your frame is quite late (1987/88?), and I've not seen any other SBDU brochures, apart from mine - anywhere.

Rk.

Author:  rollin [ Fri Mar 16, 2012 3:12 pm ]
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lovely bike, s1m0nR

I really like that 8801 track 501 frame. The colour is just out of this world :shock:

Author:  bikemeister2000 [ Mon Mar 26, 2012 6:06 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Raleigh.

Quote:
My impression is the GOD logo was used fairly late. Difficult to ascertain when it began to appear, I suspect when the SBDU at Ilkeston was closed. My SBDU did not have one - I've had it from new and I'm reluctant to put one on - they're often retro fitted.

My guess is the intention was to use it as a marketing tool across a wide range of frames and giving some kudos to the lesser models Raleigh was producing (as well as the Special Products produced with GOD still at Raleigh at this time.

Your frame does not appear in the SBDU brochure though - your frame is quite late (1987/88?), and I've not seen any other SBDU brochures, apart from mine - anywhere.

Rk.



Not true. use of these decals was strictly controlled.

The GVO'D (GOD) decal was used on frames drawn by Gerald and includes these as he did the drawings for them. It usually went just under the tubing decal on the seat tube. Sometimes it went between the gear lever bosses on the down tube.



The SBDU decal went on frames made by SBDU, including frames made in Nottingham when SBDU was incorporated into the Leightweight department and ONLY used on made-to measure frames. It normally went on the chainstay.

Regards

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Author:  S1m0nR [ Mon Mar 26, 2012 10:49 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Raleigh.

Quote:
...use of these decals was strictly controlled.

The GVO'D (GOD) decal was used on frames drawn by Gerald and includes these as he did the drawings for them. It usually went just under the tubing decal on the seat tube. Sometimes it went between the gear lever bosses on the down tube.

The SBDU decal went on frames made by SBDU, including frames made in Nottingham when SBDU was incorporated into the Leightweight department and ONLY used on made-to measure frames. It normally went on the chainstay.

Regards


Hey there,

Cheers for the reply. You've got me wondering - here's a pic of the back end of my frame - you can see the GoD emblem just below the 531 sticker and also a gold 'Raleigh Lightweight Chainset' oval on the chainstay, too. It's not an SBDU one though.

The other thing that I was wondering about is the significance of the red-on-black emblem which is just below the GoD one? It looks a bit like a 'wool' symbol that you might find on a clothing label.

My frame number is WD700084 which I believe makes it early March 1987, it was certainly made before the brochure above as it has only one bottle cage mounting, on the down-tube.

It's a lovely frame though - I've been doing about 100 miles on it the past two weeks and it's a joy to ride.

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Cheers for now...

Author:  AndyMart [ Thu Jun 07, 2012 10:51 am ]
Post subject:  here's mine.

Picked this up on ebay recently, doing a good job of transporting me to work. definately needs some work, has mismatched wheels and bent chainrings. Nice frame though. Rebuilt since first posting, 105 groupo including hubs with mavic open pros and a new saddle and bar tape. Ride has improved and weighs a good bit less too.

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Author:  LikesBikes [ Mon Jun 11, 2012 8:27 pm ]
Post subject:  Help Identify my bike?

Hi I came across this thread when hunting for the 531 racing bike I picked up the other day. They guy who sold it didn't know much more other than its 1987.

I've looked at the frame number underneath it says 'WE760024' i can post more pictures later. It's components appear to be alloy and ridding like a dream it's only downfall is its surface rust on frame. The only olther clues as to what its is, its 531 sticker i've tried dating that as i know they vary and its had the GOVD on it like the previous post.

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Author:  roadking [ Fri Jun 15, 2012 6:25 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Raleigh.

bikemeister2000 wrote:
Quote:
My impression is the GOD logo was used fairly late. Difficult to ascertain when it began to appear, I suspect when the SBDU at Ilkeston was closed. My SBDU did not have one - I've had it from new and I'm reluctant to put one on - they're often retro fitted.

My guess is the intention was to use it as a marketing tool across a wide range of frames and giving some kudos to the lesser models Raleigh was producing (as well as the Special Products produced with GOD still at Raleigh at this time.

Your frame does not appear in the SBDU brochure though - your frame is quite late (1987/88?), and I've not seen any other SBDU brochures, apart from mine - anywhere.

Rk.



Not true. use of these decals was strictly controlled.

The GVO'D (GOD) decal was used on frames drawn by Gerald and includes these as he did the drawings for them. It usually went just under the tubing decal on the seat tube. Sometimes it went between the gear lever bosses on the down tube.



The SBDU decal went on frames made by SBDU, including frames made in Nottingham when SBDU was incorporated into the Leightweight department and ONLY used on made-to measure frames. It normally went on the chainstay.

Regards


I believe there's some truth in my comments about the GOD sticker, my SBDU frame never had one, and I've not seen them on original frames built at Ilkeston.
Therefore my conclusion would be that they were used after Ilkeston closed.
The metallic chainstay sticker is featured on my SBDU and is well known on genuine SBDU frames.
Back to the GOD sticker and my original comment; I've seen this sticker on some truly mediocre framesets - meaning framesets in just 531 maintubes, 501 maintubes etc; hence my comment about"marketing".
The comment about"frames drawn"by Gerald does little to change my opinion about"marketing", and the GOD sticker on these"mediocre"framesets diminishes the reputation of the SBDU.

Roadking.

Author:  speedthing [ Sat Aug 18, 2012 8:39 am ]
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Ive just picked up a white and blue 8806 frame in mint condition id also like to get my hands on that yellow track frame as well i wonder how many takers they had for these light weight frame sets.
the frame number on mine is WD7001710.

Author:  forty45 [ Thu Aug 01, 2013 5:54 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Raleigh Frame Brochure 1987-part SBDU!

I've been lucky enough to get an 8801 frame.
Can anyone confirm what thread the bottom brackets are?
I think I saw they are made by Cinelli, but the owner said it was English thread, which also sounds logical what with Raleigh being an English company.

Author:  speedthing [ Thu Aug 01, 2013 7:49 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Raleigh Frame Brochure 1987-part SBDU!

when i built up my frame it was an english BB i put a shimano one in mine.

Author:  forty45 [ Thu Aug 01, 2013 6:46 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Raleigh Frame Brochure 1987-part SBDU!

That's what I was hoping - thank you.

Author:  Old Ned [ Sat Aug 24, 2013 6:21 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Raleigh Frame Brochure 1987-part SBDU!

forty45 wrote:
I've been lucky enough to get an 8801 frame.
Can anyone confirm what thread the bottom brackets are?
I think I saw they are made by Cinelli, but the owner said it was English thread, which also sounds logical what with Raleigh being an English company.

A Cinelli BB shell can be English threaded.

Author:  forty45 [ Tue Sep 03, 2013 12:51 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Raleigh Frame Brochure 1987-part SBDU!

I have the green/white/red 653 frame shown on at the top of the first attachment.
I think that is the type 8801 shown below it - but the colour scheme for the frame alongside it looks like red/white/blue.

Anyone able to explain?

Author:  biggs682 [ Mon Jun 08, 2015 10:27 pm ]
Post subject:  Re:

sorry to bring an old post back to life , but i have just picked up a Type 8806 frameset and stumbled upon this post , some great info . My frame is not as tidy as those shown on this thread i bought it for some of the parts attached to it rather than the actual bike , so might end up sellng the frameset

Author:  rusty bodie [ Wed Nov 11, 2015 12:57 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Raleigh Frame Brochure 1987-part SBDU!

Old Ned wrote:
forty45 wrote:
I've been lucky enough to get an 8801 frame.
Can anyone confirm what thread the bottom brackets are?
I think I saw they are made by Cinelli, but the owner said it was English thread, which also sounds logical what with Raleigh being an English company.

A Cinelli BB shell can be English threaded.


The SBDU Cinelli BBs were offered in English thread, although Cinelli made them in Italian thread too.

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