I know the chap who's selling the second one, as I bought a Dave Marsh frame from him a while ago. Good professional seller.
BTW, the first one is almost identical to the one that Darryl Webster of Manchester Wheelers used to win the National 25 in 1985.
Actually, the position is not extreme at all. Although the front wheel is a 24, it doesn't have the fag-paper clearance between the tyre and fork crown. I borrowed one of these for a fortnight in 1986 and the position was more upright than on my Roberts lo-pro that had 700c front and back.
Old enough to know better!