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PostPosted: Mon May 16, 2011 9:04 am 
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Come on the suspence is killing me. :lol:


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Bring it on!! (need to know if I need to book time off work :oops: )


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PostPosted: Mon May 16, 2011 4:23 pm 
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It's 8-9-10th July @ Ambleside

9th being the Saturday.


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PostPosted: Mon May 16, 2011 7:05 pm 
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With deep regret and despite the valiant efforts of Vern and Si BDW3 is cancelled.

Our RetroRide club structure is a rigid policy that we must adhere to in order to maintain our BCF affiliation. On this occasion we are unable to adhere to the structure required due to no AEC being the primary organiser and thus the RetroBike Rides club cannot put its name to the event, ultimately leaving those left organising with responsibilities to large to undertake.

I'm sure you'll join me in thanking both Vern and Si for their efforts in trying to bring this event to the RB masses.


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PostPosted: Mon May 16, 2011 7:48 pm 
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omg, I don't think he's kidding :shock:

Sad news indeed


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PostPosted: Mon May 16, 2011 10:33 pm 
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Ah bloody hell. Was looking forward to that.


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PostPosted: Tue May 17, 2011 2:10 am 
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This may be a stupid question but why do we care about BCF recognition? Is it for event insurance or possible grants/sponsorship or something?


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PostPosted: Tue May 17, 2011 7:50 am 
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D_XZ wrote:
This may be a stupid question but why do we care about BCF recognition? Is it for event insurance or possible grants/sponsorship or something?


I would think it could still go ahead as per other area rides (though technically it's a NW&Wales ride, I think, not a North East and Yorkshire rides, I have no idea why this area is running it other than Dr S ran it before but as he's no longer part of RetroBike it should have been passed over to them to organise.

But as part of the 'series', which is what it was it would mess up sponsorship etc at a a guess. It does screw up the series for the Northerners wishing to come along as the weekend made the distance doable, ah well i'll stick the my back garden series.


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PostPosted: Tue May 17, 2011 8:58 am 
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Such a disappointment.

I called Si last night and had a good chat about what had happened. Here is the jist of the conversation....

The ride was all set to go ahead but due to problems with liability insurance cover it had to be pulled at the last minute. The national series rounds are now separate from Retrobike Ltd and run by Retrobike Club: a club sanctioned and covered by the BCF. One of the conditions of the BCF insurance cover is that each event has to have at least one AEC and one Deputy present. This AEC and Deputy must be the organisers and have carried out the required risk assessments etc..
As NE&Yorks has no AEC at the moment, they could not put on the ride under the Retrobike banner. Si and Vern were offered the option of running the event without RetroBike National Status as a special event along the lines of HONC and Mountain Mayhem, but this event would not be covered by any insurance (the other special events like MM have their own insurance). Mark Sinnett was very supportive of this idea and offered to help out on promotion if this was the direction that the BDW team took.
In years past, when numbers were lower, this would have been a satisfactory arrangement, but as we have seen this year, the big Retrobike events have been pulling in upwards of 40-45 riders. The expectation for this years BDW was for 50 plus riders. Si and Vern decided that without proper liability insurance that the event could turn out to be a nightmare and reluctantly decided to pull the plug at the last minute. If a rider had got hurt or a member of the public got hit out on the trails then as an organized event Si and Vern would be liable.

As you know Si is no longer part of the Retrobike comunity but has been helping Vern out on the rides until someone came forward to take over as AEC. As no replacement has been found and the burden of continuing NE rides has fallen mainly on Vern's shoulders, they decided to scrub the BDW and this weekend's Thrunton ride until the situation is resolved.

Si has asked me to pass on his apolgies to everyone who was looking forward to this event and also to thank Mark and John for their efforts behind the scenes in trying to sort out the legalities and for their general support of the event over the years.

Vegas


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PostPosted: Tue May 17, 2011 9:59 am 
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Shame indeed the BDW was cancelled. Having attended both previous events can say how much I enjoyed both. However have to back up the decision made by Mark, Vern and Si. It's a shame liability and insurance has to come into play but sadly these are the times we live in - it is indeed unfair to expect two individuals to potentially shoulder such things.

VEGAS! wrote:
The national series rounds are now separate from Retrobike Ltd and run by Retrobike Club


Partially right Stevo. The National Rounds are very much part of the site as is evidenced by these forums. Aspects of the 'Retrobike Club' do indeed have to be run seperately from the site to satisfy the BCF affiliation.


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