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PostPosted: Wed Jun 13, 2018 6:16 pm 
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gmac123 wrote:
the ineptitude others presents opportunities for us

scored a giant propel with dura ace the other week for a pittance, just because the shifters were jammed.. took me a full hour to fix 8)


Was it just dried up lube? I've bought Ultegra shifters off ebay for next to nowt because they wouldn't shift, a scoosh with GT85 to soften hardened lube, worked them through their movement, repeat till they work properly, a wee bit clean, some proper lube and working as they should for the foreseeable. There's plenty info online about fixing sticky shifters but the inability of so many to get their heads round something relatively simple like this is worrying but as you say we win, they lose.


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PostPosted: Wed Jun 13, 2018 7:21 pm 
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old_coyote_pedaller wrote:
Was it just dried up lube?.


You'd have to ask Rob about that.... :lol:


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PostPosted: Wed Jun 13, 2018 9:13 pm 
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Genuine question... what's the deal with retro Shimano & Suntour mechs/shifters?
Is it like later Shimano/Sram where they generally don't like to be mixed & matched?


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PostPosted: Thu Jun 14, 2018 5:09 am 
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My '94, Explosif which I've owned from new is fitted with Suntour shifters and XT mechs and it's been the most constant and reliable set up I've ever used (all be it a bit agricultural by todays standards).


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PostPosted: Thu Jun 14, 2018 7:09 am 
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The only potential issue I could see is mixing Shimano shifters with suntour cassettes, or vice versa, due to slightly different spacing. Check out Sheldon Brown's site for the info but I'm sure it'll be fine.


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PostPosted: Thu Jun 14, 2018 7:38 am 
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The best way to mix and match derailleurs and shifters is in an industrial grinder. :)


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PostPosted: Thu Jun 14, 2018 7:44 am 
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epicyclo wrote:
The best way to mix and match derailleurs and shifters is in an industrial grinder. :)

There's really no need for that, if you want one of us to teach you how to set up a derailleur gear set-up properly all you have to do is ask :mrgreen:


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PostPosted: Thu Jun 14, 2018 7:54 am 
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:lol:

And thanks :)


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PostPosted: Thu Jun 14, 2018 8:20 am 
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DynaCol wrote:
epicyclo wrote:
The best way to mix and match derailleurs and shifters is in an industrial grinder. :)

There's really no need for that, if you want one of us to teach you how to set up a derailleur gear set-up properly all you have to do is ask :mrgreen:

Once I've mastered setting up a Sturmey-Archer 4 speeds with rounded off dog clutches, I should be qualified to do that. :)


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PostPosted: Thu Jun 14, 2018 9:32 am 
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old_coyote_pedaller wrote:
gmac123 wrote:
the ineptitude others presents opportunities for us

scored a giant propel with dura ace the other week for a pittance, just because the shifters were jammed.. took me a full hour to fix 8)


Was it just dried up lube? I've bought Ultegra shifters off ebay for next to nowt because they wouldn't shift, a scoosh with GT85 to soften hardened lube, worked them through their movement, repeat till they work properly, a wee bit clean, some proper lube and working as they should for the foreseeable. There's plenty info online about fixing sticky shifters but the inability of so many to get their heads round something relatively simple like this is worrying but as you say we win, they lose.



nope, think shimano have changed their lube as the modern shifters don't seem to get the dried out grease issue anymore, this was frayed cables restricting the ratchets to 2 or 3 movements, a right faff getting getting the cables out, but once striped, removed and lubed :lol: all's good

p.s. canny see by SRAM for modern road shifting, the good bikes 4 years in, 8K miles on it, original cables, NEVER adjusted or tweaked a barrel adjuster since building it, shifts absolutely perfect, especially under load


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