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BoTM Nov 2009 - Mid Range Special - Poll now up
EdEdwards' Kona Fire Mountain 6%  6%  [ 12 ]
Oneschnark's Progear STX 1995 8%  8%  [ 16 ]
Andrewl's 1994 Kona Cindercone 3%  3%  [ 7 ]
Gonzalez's Muddy Fox Sorcerer Mega 3%  3%  [ 7 ]
Herbert 1%  1%  [ 2 ]
makster's 1988 Jamis Dakota 1%  1%  [ 2 ]
mattbrown's 1993 Kirk Magnesium 2%  2%  [ 5 ]
Easy_Rider's 1994 Dawes SE 8%  8%  [ 17 ]
doctor-bond's 1985 Fuji Ltd 3%  3%  [ 7 ]
Dr S' 1983 Specialized Stumpjumper Sport 6%  6%  [ 12 ]
Ransetsu Orange C16R 1%  1%  [ 2 ]
Khane's Orange Prestige 1%  1%  [ 3 ]
Defiant's Muddy Fox Adventurer 1%  1%  [ 3 ]
hamster's 1999 Kona Cindercone 1%  1%  [ 2 ]
RockiMtn's 1994 Kona Fire Mountain 1%  1%  [ 3 ]
ElCani's Muddy Fox Seeker 7%  7%  [ 15 ]
AndyB's 1997 Scott Peak 0%  0%  [ 0 ]
Lewis1641's GT RTS-2 3%  3%  [ 7 ]
Eastcoatsteve's Klein 1%  1%  [ 2 ]
Chrisv40's Univega Alpina 5.5 0%  0%  [ 1 ]
one-eyed_jim's 1970 Moulton Mk3 0%  0%  [ 1 ]
Drystonepaul's 1994 Marin Muirwoods 6%  6%  [ 13 ]
rc200ti's 1991 Kona Cindercone 3%  3%  [ 6 ]
crazier's 1992 Saracen X-Lite kili pro Flyer 2%  2%  [ 5 ]
AnalogKid's 1991 Raleigh Peak 2%  2%  [ 5 ]
24pouces 1988 cannondale SM600 12%  12%  [ 25 ]
Brettels' Specialized Stumpjumper A1 FS 1996 3%  3%  [ 6 ]
oldave's Jamis Exile 0%  0%  [ 0 ]
Senri's 1988 Giant Escaper 2%  2%  [ 5 ]
BrunoD's Specialized Hardrock 95 0%  0%  [ 0 ]
stauqmuk's 1998 Amp B4 2%  2%  [ 4 ]
Tollers' 1992 Orange Clockwork 1%  1%  [ 2 ]
jango's 1995 Diamond Back Vertex 2%  2%  [ 4 ]
Ringo's Orange P7 1%  1%  [ 2 ]
mike_eb's KHS Montana 1%  1%  [ 2 ]
Total votes : 205
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 Post subject: Re: stumpjumper
PostPosted: Sat Nov 21, 2009 11:17 pm 
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Jamiedyer wrote:
Drs S's Stumpjumper for sure 8)
ten thumbs up
(if your a hillbilly)

Jamie


It's a good choice, I've owned a couple of them...I just can't stand that little flame sticker, so i couldn't consider it :evil: :lol:

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Seems to me people are desperate to vote for something that's not mid-range. I love an old stumpy as much as the next person, but if it's mid-range where do Rockhopper and Hardrock fall? And the Cannondale, does Mavic mtb componentry fall below Shimano LX now.


My sentiments exactly. I was really pleased with this botm criteria as I'd hoped to see more of the bikes that were on my radar as a nipper.
Bit dissapointed as I think the spirit of this has been lost and we're back closer to a usual botm.
That said, there are some great bikes this month, and two Jamis which must be a first 8)


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makster wrote:
mechagouki wrote:
Seems to me people are desperate to vote for something that's not mid-range. I love an old stumpy as much as the next person, but if it's mid-range where do Rockhopper and Hardrock fall? And the Cannondale, does Mavic mtb componentry fall below Shimano LX now.


My sentiments exactly. I was really pleased with this botm criteria as I'd hoped to see more of the bikes that were on my radar as a nipper.
Bit dissapointed as I think the spirit of this has been lost and we're back closer to a usual botm.
That said, there are some great bikes this month, and two Jamis which must be a first 8)


It's not a stumpjumper; it's a stumpjumper sport. Besides, the stumpjumper was definitely midranged when you look at the bike it was based on, the Ritchey. The Stumpjumper was quite attainable.

The cannondale was not top of the line, not even in their own product line. I gathered this was for mid-level, not entry level.

None of the bikes entered this month would stand much of a chance winning in a regular month, so imho, the spirit of the special midlevel contest has been kept.


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GoldenEraMTB wrote:
makster wrote:
mechagouki wrote:
Seems to me people are desperate to vote for something that's not mid-range. I love an old stumpy as much as the next person, but if it's mid-range where do Rockhopper and Hardrock fall? And the Cannondale, does Mavic mtb componentry fall below Shimano LX now.


My sentiments exactly. I was really pleased with this botm criteria as I'd hoped to see more of the bikes that were on my radar as a nipper.
Bit dissapointed as I think the spirit of this has been lost and we're back closer to a usual botm.
That said, there are some great bikes this month, and two Jamis which must be a first 8)


It's not a stumpjumper; it's a stumpjumper sport. Besides, the stumpjumper was definitely midranged when you look at the bike it was based on, the Ritchey. The Stumpjumper was quite attainable.

The cannondale was not top of the line, not even in their own product line. I gathered this was for mid-level, not entry level.

None of the bikes entered this month would stand much of a chance winning in a regular month, so imho, the spirit of the special midlevel contest has been kept.


except 'herbert'


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After much consideration Mattbrowns Kirk gets it 8) nicely finished cracking colour and looks well balanced. Proper interesting looking bike and the one I'd most like a go of. I reckon some better pics would do this bike justice. This fits the mid range bill for me to a T.


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GoldenEraMTB wrote:
makster wrote:
mechagouki wrote:
Seems to me people are desperate to vote for something that's not mid-range. I love an old stumpy as much as the next person, but if it's mid-range where do Rockhopper and Hardrock fall? And the Cannondale, does Mavic mtb componentry fall below Shimano LX now.

My sentiments exactly. I was really pleased with this botm criteria as I'd hoped to see more of the bikes that were on my radar as a nipper.
Bit dissapointed as I think the spirit of this has been lost and we're back closer to a usual botm.
That said, there are some great bikes this month, and two Jamis which must be a first 8)

It's not a stumpjumper; it's a stumpjumper sport. Besides, the stumpjumper was definitely midranged when you look at the bike it was based on, the Ritchey.

I disagree. BITD before suspension bikes hit the line-ups, a Stumpjumper was top of Specialized's range.

Now elitists may not hold that in much regard, but that doesn't make them mid-range.
GoldenEraMTB wrote:
The Stumpjumper was quite attainable.

Depending on resources, anything is quite attainable.

That doesn't necessarily make something mid-range, though.


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Neil wrote:
GoldenEraMTB wrote:
makster wrote:
mechagouki wrote:
Seems to me people are desperate to vote for something that's not mid-range. I love an old stumpy as much as the next person, but if it's mid-range where do Rockhopper and Hardrock fall? And the Cannondale, does Mavic mtb componentry fall below Shimano LX now.

My sentiments exactly. I was really pleased with this botm criteria as I'd hoped to see more of the bikes that were on my radar as a nipper.
Bit dissapointed as I think the spirit of this has been lost and we're back closer to a usual botm.
That said, there are some great bikes this month, and two Jamis which must be a first 8)

It's not a stumpjumper; it's a stumpjumper sport. Besides, the stumpjumper was definitely midranged when you look at the bike it was based on, the Ritchey.

I disagree. BITD before suspension bikes hit the line-ups, a Stumpjumper was top of Specialized's range.

Now elitists may not hold that in much regard, but that doesn't make them mid-range.
GoldenEraMTB wrote:
The Stumpjumper was quite attainable.

Depending on resources, anything is quite attainable.

That doesn't necessarily make something mid-range, though.



When that Stumpy was released was there any other bikes in the range? The Stumpy was the first mass produced mtb was it not? Did Gary Fisher have a line out by then i.e not the handmade stuff. WOuld have been breezers and ritcheys etc


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"saddle and frame bags, pumps, dirty and/or mismatched tyres, crappy environments (backyards, basements, streets, etc) and cellphone photos."

Guilty to some at least of those - to my way of thinking IT'S A BIKE and while I won't vote for my own nor would I for any that for all I know never go out!


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And having looked at 'em all again...the Fuji is nice, but I can't believe it came with a single ring - and the tyres are clean! They are clearly all magic bikes - no need to carry tubes and tools!

But most of 'em could be static models....

I have no doubt missed the point of the exercise, but then I often do.


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Neil wrote:
GoldenEraMTB wrote:
makster wrote:
mechagouki wrote:
Seems to me people are desperate to vote for something that's not mid-range. I love an old stumpy as much as the next person, but if it's mid-range where do Rockhopper and Hardrock fall? And the Cannondale, does Mavic mtb componentry fall below Shimano LX now.

My sentiments exactly. I was really pleased with this botm criteria as I'd hoped to see more of the bikes that were on my radar as a nipper.
Bit dissapointed as I think the spirit of this has been lost and we're back closer to a usual botm.
That said, there are some great bikes this month, and two Jamis which must be a first 8)

It's not a stumpjumper; it's a stumpjumper sport. Besides, the stumpjumper was definitely midranged when you look at the bike it was based on, the Ritchey.

I disagree. BITD before suspension bikes hit the line-ups, a Stumpjumper was top of Specialized's range.

Now elitists may not hold that in much regard, but that doesn't make them mid-range.
GoldenEraMTB wrote:
The Stumpjumper was quite attainable.

Depending on resources, anything is quite attainable.

That doesn't necessarily make something mid-range, though.


I'm far from an elitist.

This is not an 81 stumpjumper; it's a stumpjumper sport from 83 or 84, by that time, there were many a company making mountain bikes. The Stumpjumper was mid-level by that year if not earlier.

read a book, or a web page or two, dude :wink:

(I'm kidding with that last remark, thus the wink...don't know, not as fun when you have to spell it out, but sometimes tone is mistaken over the intranet :P )


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