for about 20 years I thought Orange were American (after Orange County) and I still thought they were the coolest so, to the US contingent, I think they can hold their own against your Fats and Goats etc.
Make mine a Goat please.
No doubt there are some fun bikes posted but I wouldn't know which one was the hand built frame and which ones came off the assembly lines in asia. Which models were the top of the line? Who was the frame builder for the high end Muddy Fox, Orange, and Sacaren frames BITD? Are they still making quality bikes?
I always enjoy reading about different builders and how they started out along with what they are doing now.
Muddy's were mostly off the lines in Asia with the odd one (the top prestige models in 1988, 1989 and 1990) being hand fillet brazed by Japanese craftsmen. Orange were mostly the same but the Formula's were custom level bikes handbuilt by some top UK builders. The Saracens were different and were mostly handbuilt in the UK in Warwickshire and the Conquests and Kilis that you see here certainly fit that description and I also think the Trekker was too.
Muddyfox and Orange share the same bloodline with Orange using the same far east builders and even basing their early bikes on the Muddy's (My Courier Comp and a Clockwork look remarkable similar in design and spec) and were a lot of peoples first serious MTB or in the case of Orange serious race bike.
Saracen are producing some quality bikes again after years of BSO things, Muddyfox went bust in the 90's and the name was bought by Universal who just turn out cataloge spec toilet. Orange remain to this day a maker of some decent MTB's that are still selling well here in the UK.