So having tried lots of kit - do you think Shimano MTB groupsets are (all) uncool?
Sounds like you have a lot of Shimano, there though if that's the case
Shimano marketing is uncool. Shimano standardisation is uncool. Shimano's dogmatic "let's redesign EVERYTHING because we might have done it wrong last time" approach is a PITA.
But if only for Hyperglide and Cassette hubs, I voted them cool.
Scroll back to my earlier post about other stuff they made that I think is sheer brilliance and therefore cool, and my other post about the contradiction that is "cool on retrobike".
About half the stuff voted "cool" so far, I voted "uncool" (wasn't allowed to vote "poncy") and got it equally "wrong" the other way round.
Shame, I don't think you've got it 'wrong' you voted cool yet you seem to be the only person who can form a coherent stance which is contra 'Shimano is cool'
Personally? standardisation is great, you don't need 73,000 specialist tools
You can interchange parts - and if you don't like shimano, standardisation really helps for obtaining parts from boutique makers that will fit
- Redeigns? Hmmm not so sure... hollow axles are worthy... They seem quite good at maintaining backward compatibility TBH
HG was compatible with UG. Hollow axle BBs can be fitted onto old square axle BB bikes if you are so minded...
Anyway changing the subject slightly:
By use of the word 'poncy'... I guess you maybe voted uncool for Campag on an MTB?
If you did that's not wrong either, different to me, but not wrong
I didn't take up the debate there 'cos people who said of Campag 'it didn't work as well as Shimano and cost more' had an argument with a sound technical basis!
Enough people praised the Campag's beauty and Italian-ness(?)
All I would have been able to say is if you used Campag and
Shimano you could have an awesome drivetrain, not a very strong argument in that it included use of Shimano!
Of course I also saw the same semantic debate about what 'cool' is *grin* never mind, I guess we each have our own definition of 'cool' dependent on our own values
If we have an opinion we want to share, we should at least be able to justify it
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