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Coolwall Nov 2010 - Campagnolo MTB groupsets
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PostPosted: Mon Jan 10, 2011 2:01 pm 
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CAPIN wrote:
M E S S A G E - F O R - F U T U R E - R E T R O B I K E R S!

IF YOU READ THIS THREAD 50 - 100 YEARS FROM NOW (2010)
AS A RESEARCH SOURCE, TRYING TO DETERMINE WHAT WAS POPULAR, IN, COOL, DESIRED IN GOOD OLD DAYS OF MOUNTAIN BIKING
PLEASE BE AWARE THAT BITH

NOBODY HAD CAMPAGNOLO
NOBODY WANTED CAMPAGNOLO
NOBODY LIKED CAMPAGNOLO
NOBODY CARED ABOUT CAMPAGNOLO

POSITIVE COMMENTS ABOUT THIS GROUPSET HERE ARE BASED SOLELY ON RELATIVE RARENESS, CURENT COLLECTOR VALUE AND ARE TAKEN OUT OF THE CONTEXT OF ITS ORIGINAL ERA.

GREATINGS FROM THE PAST

Capin


Clever post that made me titter. :D

Would you explain the reasons nobody...

a, had Campag

b, wanted Campag

c, liked Campag

d, cared about Campag

And the reasons any of the above makes something cool or not?

The question of whether Campagnolo is cool or not was asked in 2010, not the 1980's or indeed 2110! and as such, the members have spoken. It's cool, fact!!

al. :D

ps If anyone wants to have a pop at me calling Campagnolo Campag then get stuffed you anal sods! :wink:


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PostPosted: Sun Jan 16, 2011 4:48 am 
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You know, i was thinking about it the other day and figured this passion in old bikes is just another way of the fight against my own mortality.
Its an escape from reality to the time when everything was simple. Time when my idols didnt have any flaws, when hobbies did take up all my free time and when i didnt care how am i gonna end up career wise.

So now when i take some old bike mags that i keep in my toilet (to have them at hand :D ) and i look at some from the very beginning of nineties when i started riding, suddenly im back there.
I remember all the pictures, reviews and how i studied them then. I take some MBAction mags from mid nineties when i lived in NYC and i see my own comments writen in.
Translations of some english words i didnt understand back then. It does the same thing. Im back there.
I think this sentiment will probably be shared by most members here.
As i see it, the big part of this site is to have "once again" group of boys talk and salivate over those bikes we all so much loved,
with an exeption now we actually own them!
So in a way when i click on retrobike in my browser im once again young me. (some sort of a therapy :? )

This brings me into problem of "cool"
Cool changes, taste changes, we all evolve. Even in art what we today consider a great work of the past, timeless.. is considered this way for different reasons than at the time of creation..
Thats how it works. history gets interpreted by each generation differently.
What i have problem with here is, that we are still the original generation, that lived that history, which i feel as sort of responsibility.

Quite frankly, when id see now pics of mtb Campa, i kinda like it
When i look at the pic of Klein with full groupset now, its interesting.
But then i step back, and see that its not me "the exited teenager" i came here to be.
But instead its me " the selfish collector and geek" with totally different agendas..
Im sure in the future, history of MTB will be rewritten and certain brands and people will be emphasized.
But since i lived it, still remember it and in my mind i like coming back to that time, the honest view of me "teenager" will always be stronger over what i think now.
Because "NOT COOL" was the original and true state of Campa.
"COOL" is the new superficial state that we made among ourselves now.

I just red that interesting interview with Mr. FUNK and he said it right there. He became rich in the boom years because what all Europe and whole world wanted was AMERICAN STUFF.
Basically if it had that little flag and writen MADE IN USA on it, it was in.
Outside usa there were just a few other companies that reached cool status internationally, but CAMPAGNOLO had had almost all the atributes of uncool.

*Big company
*road cycling pedigree (huge turnoff)
*not american
*elegant design (road cycling pedigree)
*functionality

btw its funny that the harshest critique of campa in this thread came from Italian..


WOW you did it Al!
4:30 in the morning. I gotta go to sleep

cheers to all
jan


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PostPosted: Sun Jan 16, 2011 4:56 am 
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CAPIN wrote:
*Big company
*road cycling pedigree (huge turnoff)
*not american
*elegant design (road cycling pedigree)
*functionality



Shimano has a road cycling pedigree as well, not to mention a strong presence in the recreational fishing industry.


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PostPosted: Sun Jan 16, 2011 3:30 pm 
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http://www.retrobike.co.uk/forum/viewtopic.php?t=32006&postdays=0&postorder=asc&start=45

Argument over. Cool.


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sancho wrote:
CAPIN wrote:
*Big company
*road cycling pedigree (huge turnoff)
*not american
*elegant design (road cycling pedigree)
*functionality



Shimano has a road cycling pedigree as well, not to mention a strong presence in the recreational fishing industry.



Am afraid you prove my point sancho :D
Unless you live in a different universe where Shimano was and is cool :roll:


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PostPosted: Sun Jan 16, 2011 4:11 pm 
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Actually:!:
Seeing results of Campa.. its not bad idea at all to try SHIMANO for the coolwall.
Maybe there indeed some other universe exists :D


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There seems to be some confusion, let me reiterate.

Rod_Saetan wrote:
Argument over. Cool.


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Campag are officially

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Next collwall now up, Shimano MTB Groupsets > http://www.retrobike.co.uk/forum/viewtopic.php?t=133426


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Still got the original Campag brake levers on my Alves. The XT ones on my '89 Stumpjumper rattle like loose teeth, the Campag ones are still as they were new.


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