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 Post subject: 2 Roy Thames
PostPosted: Wed Apr 28, 2010 12:32 pm 
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The gold one (The Beloved) was the love of my life and much missed - it was lost in a fire in 1988. This is the only photo I have of it. I bought the frame in Jan 1980 from Holdsworths in Putney and had great enjoyment starting my racing career on it in club (Gravesend CC) and Kent time trials. 4hrs55 in the KCA 100 on 20? July 1980 was my personal favourite result.

531DB of course, 22.5" seat tube, 74 degrees parallel from memory, v tight clearances and a short rear end. Chrome Campag drop outs, vertical at the rear, and chrome Italian fork crown. Little ace of clubs cut outs on the head tube lugs and under the bottom bracket.

TTT bars, stem and seat pin.
Campag SF hubs and Mavic sprint rims.
Maillard compact 13 up 6 speed block.
(Also some very old CampagLF 32 front, 40 rear hubs on unnamed sprint rims with a SunTour 13-21 6 speed compact block for training.)
Galli rear mech and Campag brazed on lever.
Shimano 600 brakes.
TA 50T single chainset.
Sedisport chain.
Brooks Professional saddle.
Olympic pedals with Christophe clips and straps.
Tubs were Clement.
Black(ish) Tressor handlebar tape.

Later (as pictured) it got a Campag record rear mech, a 52T chainring (after revving out going down the Swanscombe cutting on the Q25/3 - just missed the hour but never summoned up the courage to race on any of the dual carriageway dragstrips again) and towards the end of its life the rims were replaced with the new 700c wired on tyres. It was beautiful.

The silver one is interesting. I bought it in April 1994 from an advert in the comic. Someone in Richmond I think. It had been resprayed, but Holdsworth in Putney authenticated the frame number. I'd been fairly inactive for a while as far as cycling was concerned, done a bit of mountain biking with my son (see my thread about my Saracen Trekker in the MTB section), but fancied maybe doing some club 10's on fixed. I'd ridden fixed on my hack bike throught the late 70's and 80's. This was perfect - it's a real road/track frame from, I guess the mid 70's, with front and rear brake drillings, top tube cable guides and mudguard clearance and eyes. 22.5" seat tube, not sure of the angles, but maybe about 72.5 degrees. Not too tight at the back and fairly relaxed forks. No tube label, but I imagine it's 531DB. Much plainer lugwork than The Beloved.

I initially built it up as the photo with Campag headset fitted by Ken Bird of Orpington, Miche LF on 28H Mavic OpenCD rims with Michelin wire bead tyres built at Geoff Wiles shop in Strood. Cinelli bars and stem, anonymous seatpin and a very 80's saddle. Can't remember the name, but it's in the cupboard and I can check if anyone's interested. Shimano 105 brakes and levers. The 3/32 chainset and bottom bracket was ancient and had sort of survived the 1988 fire. It wasn't very concentric and I had to run the chain quite loose. With the light wheels which kept breaking spokes, and the fact that I never got back to racing, I hardly used it.

At some point I put on a Campag Chorus seat pin from ebay and it had a Turbo saddle quite soon.

About 4 years ago I had new Ambrosio 36 hole wheels and a Miche Primato track 1/8" chainset put on by Ian Whitehead at Ruxley Cycles. It's 48x19 - 68" Still didn't get round to using it much, but it looked good in my flat. A mega expensive Brooks Swallow (honey coloured) saddle last year and this year, with retirement looming, I've done more riding, used it quite a bit and love it to bits.

Great site this, and it's really dragging out the memories.

On to my current geared road bike next, a circa 1990 Ken Bird.


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PostPosted: Thu Apr 29, 2010 6:54 pm 
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Nice bikes. So simple, yet deadly fast looking machines. I like the silver & red colour scheme matching the frames transfers and components. Not certain, but I think that looks like a suede Selle Marco Concor saddle?


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Nice to see a Roy Thame, I used to ride with a young lady who had one, we used to ride with the West Kent CTC. So not that for away from you !


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PostPosted: Fri Apr 30, 2010 8:30 am 
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Otherself ; I've still got it - it's a San Marco Lazer. Honey coloured Brooks Swallow, now and red treaded Michelin tyres. Yes, it's a pretty bike and I'll try to get some current pictures of it posted next week.

Green Rabbit - I did the West Kent CTC 100 in 8 in 1980 as part of my build up to my epic KCA100, but I didn't have much other contact and don't remember anybody. It was a bit them and us with Gravesend CC and the CTC back then, but I believe they work very closely together now.


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 Post subject: Roy Thame
PostPosted: Sat May 01, 2010 4:14 pm 
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More great pics and tales.

My hero when I started testing as a schoolboy in the early 80's rode a Roy Thame, Dean Butler, anybody know what happened to him?

More pics please GLB, i'm transported back to the endless summers of my youth.


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PostPosted: Tue May 04, 2010 10:56 am 
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I remember Dean Butler's name, but no more info.

I'm not sure I've quite got the hang of adding photo's, but this is what it looks like now.

http://s1005.photobucket.com/albums/af1 ... G_0324.jpg

http://i1005.photobucket.com/albums/af1 ... G_0326.jpg


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 Post subject: Re: Roy Thame
PostPosted: Tue May 04, 2010 2:10 pm 
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JMOSER wrote:
More great pics and tales.

My hero when I started testing as a schoolboy in the early 80's rode a Roy Thame, Dean Butler, anybody know what happened to him?

More pics please GLB, i'm transported back to the endless summers of my youth.


I think Dean Butler was forced to retire with health problems, something to do with his back I think? He has been mentioned often in the 'Legends' thread on the time trialling forum -

http://www.timetriallingforum.co.uk/

This is a HUGE thread and well worth trawling through if you're an old 'tester'. Lots of memories.

EDIT - great picture on the wall behind your bikes GLB, one of my favourites.


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Just great 8)


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Hi there
I've just bought a Roy Thame bike from a neighbour that looks identical to your copper/gold one - same colour, and it has the hearts/clubs/diamonds/spades cut outs in the lugs. I think he said he bought it in Putney in 1980 also, as a frame, and then set it up as his TT bike. (It has a 57 front ring!) Anyway it's become my restoration project and I'm wondering if you can tell me any more about the frame and perhaps where you think I could source authentic components. Being a frame purchase I guess there wasn't a standard configuration. I'd like to add a campag group set and improve the brakes. The wheels are tubeless but I may keep them like that, not sure. Anyway the frame has a lovely feel to it - was "The Beloved" the model name? Anyway, any help much appreciated!
Tom


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 Post subject: Re: 2 Roy Thames
PostPosted: Mon Sep 21, 2015 9:56 pm 
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Roy Thame's builders liked to think Italian, copied cloverleaf from Colnago and had names like Campionissimo :)

Any pics?

Shaun


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