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PostPosted: Wed Oct 09, 2013 11:19 am 
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Hi good morning, can anybody help me identify this Raleigh bike, the rear brake cable has an internal route.
Any input would be great.


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PostPosted: Wed Oct 09, 2013 2:43 pm 
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maybe some more detailed pictures would help?


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PostPosted: Wed Oct 09, 2013 4:12 pm 
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No worries, will post me some more pictures after work, i had only picked up yesterday and not had much time to look at it.
I had recently restored a Raleigh RX100 with the same cable routing, which was a reyolds 501 tube set, but this had twin bottle bosses.
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PostPosted: Thu Oct 10, 2013 8:05 am 
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Pictures as follows, serial number on bottom bracket reads WA6000082?


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PostPosted: Thu Oct 10, 2013 9:31 am 
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Hmmm... Interesting

The frame number means

W - Worksop (Carlton built) if prior to 1981, otherwise built at the Lightweight Unit at Raleigh
A - January built frame
6 - either 1976 or 1986 (don't think it will be 1996, but I could be wrong...)

Has it been painted? I don't recall ever seeing that paint scheme, or for that matter the decals.

Are the gear changed brazed on, or band on?

The chainset looks older than the rest of the bike

The Shimano 105 Golden Arrow brakes date it at approx 1985/1986 I believe

What is the rest of the group set?

Are the wheels steel rims?

I'd have to say that the internal cable routing is throwing me, as every Raleigh I have seen from the 80's had brazed on top tube cable guides, it's the later 1990's bikes that tended to have the internal routing

Could just be a 'bitsa' bike, i.e. a frame with lots of donor parts


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PostPosted: Thu Oct 10, 2013 11:33 am 
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The brake set seems to Shimano 600, not sure about the crank, possabley a suntour unit, front a rear mech a shimano but pre indexed gears. The shifters are a clamp on design with cheap plastic levers.
I dated the frame aswel as either an 76 or 86, the components are certainly pre 86, so i would reckon some has been messing around with it at so point.
The frame is very very similar to the reynolds 501 RX100 of my father in laws but that has only one sset of bottle bosse's as this has two, but no sure about the forks though, theres no provision for mudguards which would surgest a racier model.
The gent said the bike has been in a garage for years and doesn't know much about it, i noticed the rear cable layout and presumed it be a 501 frame.
Thanks for the reply.


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PostPosted: Thu Oct 10, 2013 11:39 am 
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I'm pretty sure they are 105 Golden Arrow brakes, as per my 1986 Team Corsa:

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Can you take a pic of the rear drop out?

Forks on my 1986 Team Corsa:

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Forks on my 1985 Competition (these are 531):

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They 'look' like the latter


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PostPosted: Thu Oct 10, 2013 11:56 am 
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Thats brilliant, i,am i have a picture of the rear drop out, if not i'll take one when i get home. I have brought the seat post into work to measure with digital calliper set, i'll post the measurements shortly.
Thanks for you help so far.


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PostPosted: Thu Oct 10, 2013 12:07 pm 
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The seat post diameter measures 26.7mm, if i remember correctly 18-30 tubing was around 25.4/25.6mm


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PostPosted: Thu Oct 10, 2013 12:18 pm 
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If it is a Raleigh, then it's unlikely to be 18-23 tubing given it's W prefix on the frame number

I can't remember the seat post sizes off hand, but 26.7mm sounds like Reynolds 501 to me..

It's odd, because looking at the lugs on your frame they are very similar to the 'lower end' Raleigh ones, which includes the likes of the Record Sprint which had 501 tubing.

If you look at the lugs on my 85 and 86 W prefix frames above you will see that they are more ornate..


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