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PostPosted: Sat Jul 13, 2019 8:24 pm 
Dirt Disciple

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Hi Guys, looking at picking up a set of period Campagnolo wheels for my Bianchi TSX - either Shamals, Vento`s or Electrons (if I can find any...)

Question - is the only difference between shamal and ventro`s the depth - looks like ones around 30mm deep and the other 40mm or am I missing something? Would be the 16 hole tpw version of either I`d be after.

Cjeers, Dan.


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PostPosted: Sun Jul 14, 2019 1:44 pm 
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Retro Dan wrote:
Hi Guys, looking at picking up a set of period Campagnolo wheels for my Bianchi TSX - either Shamals, Vento`s or Electrons (if I can find any...)

Question - is the only difference between shamal and ventro`s the depth - looks like ones around 30mm deep and the other 40mm or am I missing something? Would be the 16 hole tpw version of either I`d be after.

Cjeers, Dan.



Hi Dan,


Prob not the answer you needed but i just asked one of my pals at Campag hq in Vicenza for you and got this reply...


"Vento had steel spokes and shamal aluminum beefy spokes.

I don’t believe that the rim was quite the same either

What year are we talking about?
There was a year when it had a big hub flange on the front
One year when the g3 was really tight together"


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PostPosted: Mon Jul 15, 2019 6:08 pm 
Devout Dirtbag

Joined: Fri Aug 24, 2018 9:48 am
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Location: Copenhagen, Denmark
Augustus wrote:
Retro Dan wrote:
Hi Guys, looking at picking up a set of period Campagnolo wheels for my Bianchi TSX - either Shamals, Vento`s or Electrons (if I can find any...)

Question - is the only difference between shamal and ventro`s the depth - looks like ones around 30mm deep and the other 40mm or am I missing something? Would be the 16 hole tpw version of either I`d be after.

Cjeers, Dan.



Hi Dan,


Prob not the answer you needed but i just asked one of my pals at Campag hq in Vicenza for you and got this reply...


"Vento had steel spokes and shamal aluminum beefy spokes.

I don’t believe that the rim was quite the same either

What year are we talking about?
There was a year when it had a big hub flange on the front
One year when the g3 was really tight together"


Pretty sure that the OP is asking about the 90s wheels, which both had steel spokes.

Shamal came in either 12-spoke or 16-spoke variants, with silver rims (there was a black set, but they were rare - I bought a set for £150 and sold them a month later for £400, back in 2002). Weight was 965g/1190g.

Vento and Zonda were the 2 models lower down Campagnolo's aero wheel line-up. They weighed a bit more, but the Vento looked very similar.


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PostPosted: Mon Jul 15, 2019 6:47 pm 
Dirt Disciple

Joined: Wed Jan 03, 2018 2:02 am
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FiveAlpha wrote:
Augustus wrote:
Retro Dan wrote:
Hi Guys, looking at picking up a set of period Campagnolo wheels for my Bianchi TSX - either Shamals, Vento`s or Electrons (if I can find any...)

Question - is the only difference between shamal and ventro`s the depth - looks like ones around 30mm deep and the other 40mm or am I missing something? Would be the 16 hole tpw version of either I`d be after.

Cjeers, Dan.



Hi Dan,


Prob not the answer you needed but i just asked one of my pals at Campag hq in Vicenza for you and got this reply...


"Vento had steel spokes and shamal aluminum beefy spokes.

I don’t believe that the rim was quite the same either

What year are we talking about?
There was a year when it had a big hub flange on the front
One year when the g3 was really tight together"


Pretty sure that the OP is asking about the 90s wheels, which both had steel spokes.

Shamal came in either 12-spoke or 16-spoke variants, with silver rims (there was a black set, but they were rare - I bought a set for £150 and sold them a month later for £400, back in 2002). Weight was 965g/1190g.

Vento and Zonda were the 2 models lower down Campagnolo's aero wheel line-up. They weighed a bit more, but the Vento looked very similar.


I keep considering an older set of the Shamals for one of my steel 8 speed Campy equipped bikes. How did the wheels ride, did you notice the weight?


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PostPosted: Mon Jul 15, 2019 7:50 pm 
Devout Dirtbag

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At the time, they were the only really affordable aero wheels, so they were popular with time-triallists (that's what I used them for).

As for weight - I don't recall them being significantly different to the standard road wheels of the time, but I can't be sure

It might be confirmation bias, but I always found them fast, for 10 mile/25 mile TTs. Harsh, but then everything would have been on the ridiculous Continental 20mm tyres I rode!


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PostPosted: Mon Jul 15, 2019 8:25 pm 
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I had a pair of Shamal for a couple of months. They can be very aero but as long as I was not doing TT but more touring with ups & down hills, I found them very heavy. Nice looking wheels but harsh to ride. Sold them fast and replaced with low profile open pro's. I presume vento's will be prettty simliar if not heavier. TSX is not a light tubing so be aware of not building a very heavy bike if you plan to ride it regularly.


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PostPosted: Mon Jul 15, 2019 10:44 pm 
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"TSX is not a light tubing so be aware of not building a very heavy bike if you plan to ride it regularly."

TSX isn't heavy, either. It is marginally lighter than SLX. Besides, nobody rides vintage and classic bikes for their light weight!

My bottom of the range Trek 1.1 from 2014, with alu frame, carbon fork and Shimano Claris groupset, weighs less than my Dura Ace equipped Fondriest SLX. And the Trek commuter only cost about £600 new (I bought it for £120, but that's another story). Modern bikes are MUCH lighter - starting around early 2000s.


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PostPosted: Wed Jul 17, 2019 8:25 pm 
Dirt Disciple

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As ever, with a little time I figured on something totally different - just picked up a set of c record 24h hubs and one ambrosio sprinter nos rim to match, just need to find another rim them off to the LBS to get them laced up - call me paranoid but I do like wheels to be as new/old as possible....


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