don't know what your problem is Pete, why you find it of relevance to bring your point about Ducati into the debate is again odd, - perhaps it tells me that you are just looking for a messageboard fight which in my experience nobody ever wins? However I am glad that your intelligence is above the average Ducati assembler, - they are as you state assemblers, - and a lot of them are women who came from the nearby lingerie factory that closed in Bologna, comforting to know that a fellow MTB enthusiast sees himself above woman who put lingerie together, - the trick mate is as a man to learn the skill of how to get it off.
Oh and the wiring loom comes in from a 3rd party already assembled, - Ducati staff just put them into the bikes, - I have some photos that I took of the factory line if you would like to see?
As I said already, sorry that you have taken offence. The fact that you may think my commented about being tricked was aimed at you is again interesting, - it was not aimed at you, - it was actually a fact about the industry from the period that I was involved.
If you look at my signature you will see the period that my knowledge come from, - in those days NTi (I think) imported and distributed the Rock Lobster. NTi also distributed Yeti, Salsa, Ringle, Fat Chance. I recall seeing them in primary colours, - blue and red with yellow logos. As a shop we never traded them, - as I said at the time the frame was identical to the Orange Clockwork which we sold shed loads of.
I can see that you do understand the comment that I was originally making, in the the Rock Lobster brand is actually a marketing license. So not quite sure why you are getting the hump with me.
Interesting to read about Merlin Cycles and their statement
From Rock Lobster the Californian frame designer of excellent reputation Paul Sadoff
- It does NOT say that he designed the Rock Lobster frame, - it does say that he is a frame designer. So did he design for the Taiwanese? Did Lester at Orange employ him in the early days? Perhaps he did or maybe you could ask him how his
frames came to be the same as others? I would be genuinely interested to know so perhaps I will stick around a bit longer to see where this goes.
1991 – Sept 1994
Manager, Motosport, Smithbrook Kilns, Cranleigh, England we sold Specialized, Marin, Kona, Cannondale, Trek, Klein, Fat Chance, Bontrager, Dave Yates, Orange, Pace. Bikes I owned: DB Accent, Cannondale M300, Specialized M2 x 2, Klein Pinnacle (awful), Kona Explosif, Fat Chance Yo Eddy, Specialized S-works steel (still got).